Ola Tjorhom and Hans-Fredik Dahl from Norway join Marcus for this episode abroad. Both are professors who converted to Catholicism deep into their professional careers. Professor Tjorhom came from a devout home in a culture that was nominally religious. Originally he hoped to pursue a career as a missionary in Tanzania, but was captured by the study of theology in college, which prompted him to pursue advanced studies and become a Theology professor. Dr. Tjorhom and Marcus explore the roots of Lutheranism, particular in its infancy when Martin Luther, in the professor’s eyes, sought renewal, not a break away from the Catholic Church. Professor Dahl shares his journey from secular journalist and media scholar to his deathbed Spiit-led conversion and miraculous healing, joining his Carthusian monk brother and wife as Catholic converts.