Two former Protestants share the ideas and experiences that led them to the Catholic Church.

How did a Baptist pastor and an Evangelical musician end up Catholic?

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim came from two very different theological backgrounds, but they both ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.

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Latest On The Journey Episodes

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 35:
The Real Presence – Facing the Fathers

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 35:
The Real Presence – Facing the Fathers

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 34:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVIII

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 34:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVIII

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 33:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVII

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 33:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVII

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 32:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVI

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 32:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XVI

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 31:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XV

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 31:
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XV

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 30
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XIV

On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 30
A Damning System of Works Righteousness, Part XIV