Two former Protestants share the ideas and experiences that led them to the Catholic Church.

How did a Baptist pastor and an Evangelical musician end up Catholic?

Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim came from two very different theological backgrounds, but they both ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.

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