Dr. Norman McCrummen returns to the Journey Home to discuss further his conversion to Catholicism after serving and retiring as a Presbyterian minister. He explains the significance of the Eucharist in his conversion, as well as the influence of the magisterium. Dr. McCrummen also speaks of his growing understanding of the Communion of Saints, the Blessed Mother and Tradition, particularly through the study of the Catechism, and how that deepening knowledge led him become Catholic. Marcus and he also reflect theologically on suffering.