Jay grew up in a Christian home but as a teen in the mid 1960’s he began to question everything. After high school he became involved in rock music and moved to California where he met Gail. Gail was brought in an Evangelical family. When she went off to college she got involved in the drug culture. Soon after they met a conversion of sorts began. About six months later they attended a conference with the Campus Crusade for Christ where they recommitted their lives to Christ. Eventually, they went into full-time ministry and became missionaries for Campus Crusade to Hollywood.