Cathy and Rick Townsend share the story of their journey from Catholic to Pentecostal, then returning to the Catholic faith led by the Holy Spirit. They talk about the particulars of their involvement in Protestant ministry and the effects that this full commitment had on their family. Rick’s struggle with esophageal cancer brought him to a profound understanding of the redemptive aspect of suffering, which he reflects upon in this episode. The Townsends also discuss with Marcus the significance of the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Eucharist in their lives.