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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 02:16 am |
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Yes, the grammar's intentional. I've been received into the Catholic Church. Next Mass I get my first Communion.
{Now if only someone'd be kind enough to teach me how to receive - on the tongue, the tongue, the tongue! Sorry, personal preference.}
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 02:45 am |
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H1, I'm thrilled for you. That's just fabulous!
Others here are better than I at giving such directions.
I'll let them have the floor.
Again, I am rejoicing with you.
Becky
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 03:03 am |
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Click here for Adoremus URL on importance/meaning of gestures during Mass.
H1, while you're waiting for someone to give directions, here's a page that has a brief answer to your question as well as some other helpful comments on reverent practices during the Mass.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 04:44 pm |
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H1:
All I know is that Father Andy said if one wished to receive on the tongue, it was not necessary to give him full view of one's tonsils.
I would prefer to receive on the tongue, but can't get the hang of sticking my tongue out in time to stop Father John from putting the host in my hand.
Congratulations and Welcome Home!
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 05:27 pm |
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To receive the eucharist on the tongue, if you are standing, remember to hold your hands in prayer position palms together as you should while processing at communion, this is the signal that you wish to receive on the tongue. After saying, "Amen" tilt your head back slightly and open your mouth and slightly protrude your tongue. DON'T BITE FATHER'S HAND.
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 06:51 pm |
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Congrats Hidden One! Same here! I was trying to find a silly retort to send back regarding your verb tensing but my brain is totally tapped. Isn't it exciting and wonderful? You have more guts than me. I'm so sure I'd mess that up. Once I get more used to it maybe.
Thanks for the weblink Intercessor. That's good stuff to know! I'll have to admit that no one has told me much by way of specifics like that so I've sort of been winging it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 01:09 am |
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Thank you Becky for the link - it was very informative.
Thank you also Annie - I was fortunate enough to get a (very good) priest (who is on my IM list, heh) to explain how to receive on the tongue - he advised to kneel and went through it all For Dummies style (at my request), up until I have actually chewed and swallowed. (After that, not so sure.)
Being Catholic is fun.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:13 am |
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Hidden One wrote: Being Catholic is fun.
Shhhh …you'll give away our secret! 
Just pretend you're licking an ice cream cone, and stop at mid-lick. You'll do fine.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:18 am |
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Shhhh …you'll give away our secret!
Too late now!
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 02:02 pm |
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| I'm don't understand why it's so significant for some to recieve the host on the tongue, did not Christ pass out the bread at the last supper?
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 02:32 pm |
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Hi Candlemas, man that's a cool word. Candlemass. I just looked that up to see what it meant. I love that part of the rosary where we meditate on Mary's purification, although she was pure. It so puts me to mind of how we are to act humbly in submission and that there is no dishonor in that.
Anyway I've not yet had the courage to receive on the tongue myself.. 
How do we know that He didn't feed any of His apostles by hand? Does it actually say He did it one way or the other? When I picture it I can easily picture Him giving the bread directly say to St John the Beloved or to Saint Peter (who could be gung ho that way!) and them having perhaps some inclination of what was going on, how important this would be, and taking it that way. Or not. Either way, it would have been an intimate, pure and holy gesture in keeping with what He was doing.
Haven't you ever been so close friends - and it doesn't have to be intimate lovey dovey stuff that you eat from their hand? Like ... oh try some of this and if you don't know the person too well you'll take the spoon cuz ... weirdness ... but if you know them well you'll let them feed you. Or some of their french fries or whatever it may be. And then of course there are people who think they're closer to you than they are and there's that flicker of offense when you say ... um, please put that on the plate, no offense. ;-)
I think it's an intimacy - in a pure, holy way mind! - sort of thing.. For me anyway.. And I'm not to that point just yet. But that's what goes through my mind when I think about the issue.
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:01 pm |
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How do we know that He didn't feed any of His apostles by hand?
We don’t!
One thing is sure: In the Middle East it is still not unusual for the host at a meal to place food (with his right hand) into the mouth of a good friend or guest.
In fact the host will pick out the best titbits for his guest as he knows the guest would never take the best things on his own accord.
Having spent quite a while in various Middle Eastern countries, I can very well imagine that our Lord “fed his sheep” at the Last Supper.
Also the words “take and eat” does not necessarily mean “take in your hand and put it in your mouth”. It could very well mean “receive this from my hand into your mouth”.
Just pretend you're licking an ice cream cone, and stop at mid-lick.
Rick, that is the best piece of instructional advice on how to receive on the tongue that I've ever heard. I'm gonna use it as soon as I can on our Alter boys and girls. Who, BTW, are about 99% tongue communicants, but the are like clams when it come to opening their mouth and giving me a chance to place the host on their tongue. Kind of like if someone would present a fist for hand communion.
Last edited on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:13 pm by Robert
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Posted: Fri Mar 28th, 2008 02:27 am |
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Candlemass wrote: I'm don't understand why it's so significant for some to recieve the host on the tongue, did not Christ pass out the bread at the last supper?
In the United States, one may receive in the hand or on the tongue. Both are equally legitimate. Some people claim that communion in the hand is less reverent, and some have even claimed that Blessed Teresa of Calcutta had said that communion in the hand was going to be the downfall of the Church, but both are simply wrong.
It is quite possible to receive communion in the hand reverently, and it is quite possible to receive communion on the tongue irreverently. The instructions we use today on how to receive communion in the hand were written by St. Cyril of Jerusalem, one of the Early Fathers of the Church. It's not exactly a new innovation.
To quote St. Cyril's words from the Catholic Encyclopedia:
"Approaching do not come with thy palms stretched flat nor with fingers separated. But making thy left hand a seat for thy right, and hollowing thy palm, receive the Body of Christ, responding Amen. And having with care hallowed thine eyes by the touch of the Holy Body, take it, vigilant lest thou drop any of it. For shouldst thou lose any of it, it is as though thou wast deprived of a member of thy own body." "Then after Communion of the Body of Christ, approach the Chalice of His Blood, not extending thy hands, but bending low, and with adoration and reverence saying Amen, sanctify thyself by receiving also the Blood of Christ. And while thy lips are yet wet, touch them with thy hands, and sanctify thy eyes and thy forehead and thy other senses"
Sound familiar? Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 02:32 am by CajunRick
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Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 12:28 pm |
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Hi Rick,
I just wanted to say thanks. I prayed about this over the weekend. It's funny but Sister Helen told us this, only in my mind (crazy thoughts us neophytes think) that she wanted to make sure we didn't mess up our First Communions so this was easier. But that the other way was better.
Truth is, deep breath, I love Him very much. Those words sound so cheap compared to how much I love Him. When my friends ask me why I'm doing this I can tell them rational things like the doctrine is sound, etc etc. but none of that is really the truth - or rather it is only the on this little human level truth. Because I love Him very much.
And in a way He was probably a little upset at me for being upset at myself over the manner of doing this when I really did like Sister Helen said and pictured it like a throne for my Lord whom I love. And that's why after the first time I "have to" go every day. I love Him so much. To meet Him in this truly intimate way is so good. We talk about it all the time - in prayer. I'm used to describing prayer as talking to Him because then I tell people and you can simply talk to Him too - anytime about anything and He will be SO glad you came! But we talk about it all the time now. How much I long for the time when I will receive Him and how full of joy He is to be received by me - even though I am SO not worthy. How glorious He is in stooping to meet me, in allowing Himself even (deep deep breath) to be desecrated by those who approach without perceiving the Body and Blood. Because in our own private dialogues I see Him at His most glorious and wonderful upon the cross, dying for all mankind. And I tell Him this often. It is part of how we are. Not *of course* that sin should increase that grace might increase but ... you know what I mean.
But that's not the kind of thing that makes for good apologetics. Or maybe it does. Maybe it's the best apologetics.
It's just it's hard.. It breaks my heart to know that talking about the most precious thing here some people might just think nothing of it, throw His body to the ground and think nothing of it at all. So it's easier for me to talk about the externals and forms. But I felt like okay probably not being entirely honest here about just how much this Sacrament has meant to me - and why. And I can't be completely honest either because words fail me - but this is a little closer..
Thanks for bringing that to light though Rick. You are so right. I will continue to receive Him in that manner and not feel bad about it anymore..
God bless!
Anne
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What a breathtakingly heartfelt and beautiful post lifetone (Anne).
You are lovely. Jesus must love you so much. 
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