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Dave Armstrong
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 09:51 pm |
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I have found that when I use Internet Explorer to browse, I have no problems, whereas when I used my usual Firefox, I could not reply many times to posts. I would go to reply and get this blank screen, with nothing else happening.
Perhaps this has been others' experience. If you have access to IE, you might want to use it, to avoid these technical annoyances.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 09:54 pm |
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That hasn't been my experience, Dave. Aside from a few IE only features like the spell checker, Firefox works flawlessly. IE is so much more susceptible to viruses, I don't know a single IT person who uses it.
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Dave Armstrong
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 10:28 pm |
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| That's weird. I've been having all kinds of problems with Firefox today, yet IE has worked flawlessly, and even the posting time is a lot faster. I just thought that if someone else was having my experience, I could alert them to this as an option.
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mrsbmoo
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 10:47 pm |
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| I have never been able to get firefox to work with this forum. It would sign me out everytime I changed what I was looking at. Actually I had to stop using firefox reecently because it was spending half its time freezing up. It started doing that about 3 updates ago.
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Credo Catholic
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 10:54 pm |
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| I didn't know there was anything besides IE! Duh! Is Firefox something I can buy in a box and install?
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Dave Armstrong
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Posted: Wed Jan 9th, 2008 11:01 pm |
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You can either buy it or get a free version off the Internet, far as I know. It works better for me on my blog but worse here. Also, it doesn't allow you to make a link to a word (on this forum), as IE does.
Here is a download site and the Wikipedia article on Firefox.
Last edited on Wed Jan 9th, 2008 11:06 pm by Dave Armstrong
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Ali
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 12:14 am |
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How strange we all have different experiences with Firefox. I use it here and never have any problems logging in or staying logged in. But I can't do a spell check, nor does a little red line show up when I mispell something (like firefox does with other forums).
I can't stand IE, so I suffer through. I count it as a pennance 
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 12:16 am |
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Credo Catholic wrote: I didn't know there was anything besides IE! Duh! Is Firefox something I can buy in a box and install?
Oh yes, check it out! I love it  It's free. Who doesn't love free stuff? LOL
You can personalize it, have a million little tabs open across the top (ok, maybe a million is a slight exageration ) and do all sorts of stuff.
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Howard the Pilgrim
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 12:53 am |
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Hello,
I use IE and I have problems occasionally with the blank screens and can't find the website messages.
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Intercessor
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 12:56 am |
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Safari works really well for me on the Forum, especially when writing posts.
IE has sometimes failed to reveal, in the creation stage, oddities that show up after posting. I haven't had that problem with Safari. Safari is also much faster than IE.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 01:54 am |
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Credo Catholic wrote: I didn't know there was anything besides IE! Duh! Is Firefox something I can buy in a box and install?
No, but you can get it free at http://www.firefox.com. It's one of many alternate browsers available for the Windows platform. David will have to speak for Mac users.
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CajunRick
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 01:56 am |
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Dave Armstrong wrote: Also, it doesn't allow you to make a link to a word (on this forum), as IE does.
Sure it does. You just have to learn how to do it manually using BBCode.
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David W. Emery
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Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 02:09 pm |
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CajunRick wrote:It's one of many alternate browsers available for the Windows platform. David will have to speak for Mac users.
I did an informal count of web browsers about a year ago and was able to identify about 20 different programs available for Windows and 12 for the Macintosh. Each has different features and is designed for a different kind of user. One or another of them will probably be right for you. Since most browsers are free for the downloading, what do you have to lose?
On the Mac, I have a preference for three browsers: OmniWeb, Camino and Safari — in that order. I have several others on my computer, including the cross-platform Firefox and Opera (Mac versions), but I avoid them in ordinary use. They are there solely for technical purposes.
Might I point out Intercessor’s post above. Becky is using a Windows PC. So how come she’s using Apple’s Safari browser? It happens that Apple makes Safari for PC as well as Mac. And if it works on a PC anything like it does on the Mac, it will run circles around Internet Explorer. I had a chance to use IE on the PC for a couple of weeks this past year, and I find it kind of like driving a backhoe on the freeway.
Not only that, I note that IE tries to “clean up” improperly coded sites and documents, whether it be HTML, BB Code or other internet denizens, so that they appear just fine when in fact they are not. This might seem to be a good thing, but often it just creates problems. A while back, Becky was trying to set up a forum post in Internet Explorer. It looked OK, so she posted it. Then she looked at it in Safari, and it looked terrible. So she posted a question on the technical forum asking what was wrong.
Safari was showing her what she actually had done, while IE was showing her what it would have looked like if she had done it correctly. Well, you can’t predict what browser the next viewer will be using. Some may see such things A-OK, while others may see a scrambled mess. To avoid this, you have to do your set-up in software that doesn’t “fix” things behind the scenes.
I have repaired many a post on this forum because it exhibited some really bad problems with the encoding. (You have undoubtedly seen the note, “Edited to fix formatting.”) Nearly all of them were done with either Internet Explorer or Firefox. These are the two browsers for which the forum software has a special WYSIWYG text entry box. That box does exactly what Internet Explorer does: it insulates the user from the code, hiding it so everything “seems OK.” But in the process, it provides a huge opportunity for the user to tangle up the code so badly that the result, once posted, is a disaster. I consider this software “feature” a definite liability. It is the reason why a number of members have resorted to not using any formatting at all. They don’t want spaghetti, they want to communicate with real words.
The ultimate answer, of course, is to steer clear of both Internet Explorer and Firefox and concentrate on browsers, like Safari (I’m not plugging Apple here; I’m just not on intimate terms with other PC browsers), that will allow you to see what you are doing. It will require the learning of those awful codes (top right hand corner on any forum page, you’ll see the Help button; it’s all in there) if you want to format your message, but once you get the hang of it, you’ll like the results and so will everyone else. I have my computer set up so that I can key them in automatically using macros. Clean, no mistakes, every time.
A final word on some of the other problems mentioned in this thread. Reference has been made to Firefox not allowing one to check spelling. I don’t know about the PC version, but the Mac version has its own built-in spell checker. The Mac operating system also supplies spell checking and a dictionary/thesaurus system-wide. (I don’t normally use a spell checker, but when I need one, I prefer CocoAspell, the Mac version of a Unix utility, for its superior performance and linguistic versatility. It has, for instance, over 20 different dictionaries for English, keyed to locality, subject matter and different schools of grammar.)
Also, while I find Firefox cumbersome and plodding, it does not misbehave on my computer. If you find a program misbehaving, chances are very good that you have done some customizing, either of the system or of the program, and this is what is actually causing the malfunction. Try removing that plug-in or add-on and see if it doesn’t make a difference in performance.
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Dave Armstrong
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Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2008 06:36 pm |
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| Man; I'm happy to stick to the intricacies of theology! Gives me a headache just thinkin' about all this browser stuff . . .
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