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JillD
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 07:55 pm |
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On another thread, the advice and encouragement is being given to seekers to go slow, to tackle apprehensions as they come, to be as sure as one can be (even if that means, like happened to me, that you come to a point of saying to yourself, "Well, I don't buy ALL of it, but I buy enough of it and am sure enough of the Truth in the Church to know that my misgivings are MINE and will be cleared up by further inquiry.")
I'm curious to know how long it was for folks from the time they were first open in the slightest way to the Church before actually coming in.
For me, it was about 14 years.
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 08:15 pm |
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| Ten (intense) months for me. I was never an anti-Catholic, though, so it is debatable how long I had been "open in the slightest way." I started really looking into it in January 1990, never thinking even then that I would possibly become a Catholic. In the summer, I changed my view on contraception, still not thinking that I would ever be a Catholic (but perhaps suspecting it down deep). By October, it was over, after reading Cardinal Newman's classic Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine.
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 08:27 pm |
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Two and a half years after my son proposed to a lovely Catholic woman, I met with a priest and assured him, in the first meeting, that I would be leaving the Baptist faith and embracing Catholicism.
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Posted: Wed Jul 2nd, 2008 08:38 pm |
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| I don't think there was ever a time I wasn't "open in the slightest way" but I never gave it thought until the summer of 2003, but I put it aside to be with my Dad during his final year before he died of Alzheimers. Then I re-opened my thoughts and began reading and watching EWTN. When I became convinced of the authority of Peter and the apostolic succession, I was like a house on fire. Things began to fall into place. I sometimes wonder why it was so easy for me, and many others take years to investigate every detail.
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| I was raised in a strong ant-catholic religion. I went through their school system up through the college level. One day I saw, bought and read a book entitled Why Do Catholics Do That? by Kevin Johnson. To cut a long story short, I was impressed by the contents of the book. Next, I saw some free lessons on the Internet and I took 3 sets of them. (The price was right.) After that, I worked on one of those correspondance Ph.D. in religion programs which lead to a degree and preacher papers. My studies and the stack of books I read took me 4.5 years. Now for the funny part. When I finished the program, I held a Ph.D. in religion, preacher papers as a protestant pastor AND I had been led directly to the door of the Catholic Church. So, the next obvious step for me was to call the local parish and get into the next RCIA term. If my calculations are correct that comes to 5.25 years. Last edited on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 04:41 am by BodRod
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Howard the Pilgrim
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 03:20 am |
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| I am not in yet but I have been looking at the Catholic Church and fellowshipping with Catholics for about 14 years. Pray for me. It is a timing thing.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 03:26 am |
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My journey happened when I was a teenager. It started when I was 12 and studying to “join the church” — meaning, to become a responsible, adult Christian in my Methodist congregation. At that time, children who could not legally declare for themselves (even if already baptized) were not counted as members of the congregation or of the denomination.
I discovered some major difficulties in the textbooks. Assertions such as “God was in Christ, but Christ was not God” were clearly not biblical. (I later found out that this view was actually a well-known heresy from ancient times known as Arianism. Most Methodists accept the divinity of Christ, but for whatever reason the author of our textbook did not.) And in Christian history, there was the Fifteen Hundred Year Gap — the years unaccounted for in Protestant recounting from the end of Acts to the Reformation, when it was considered that Christianity “took a sabbatical” as Rome “burned” because of its corruption. It took a couple of years for me to decide that Christianity was still God’s plan for humanity, but then I had to find a way to make it workable. This came through my study of Thomist philosophy, which took another two years.
On my sixteenth birthday, I was asked by my parents to explain what I intended to do about my still-unfinished church membership situation. I declared my intention to become Catholic. They were horrified and put an embargo on it. So I spent the next two years in limbo. After I turned 18 (the canonical age of majority), I knocked on the rectory door and took private instructions from the priest, as was done universally in those days. I was baptized into the Catholic Church the following spring at age 19.
My journey, therefore, lasted seven years.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 03:34 am |
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Howard the Pilgrim wrote:
I am not in yet but I have been looking at the Catholic Church and fellowshipping with Catholics for about 14 years. Pray for me. It is a timing thing.
Howard, you will be in my prayers.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 01:05 pm |
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In Dec. of 2005, I rec'd a Christmas letter from a childhood friend, raised Presbyterian, and she told me she had become Catholic. I knew that her husband had been Catholic, and he had recently died, and I assumed she had become Catholic to feel closer to him. A week or so later, in early January 2006, I called a friend I hadn't heard from in awhile and asked him what was new, and he told me he was taking classes to become Catholic! I was surprised, but I rationalized that since he'd been Episcopalian, it wasn't such a big leap for him. Later THAT SAME WEEK I had lunch with another childhood friend, also raised Presbyterian, and she told me that she was thinking of taking RCIA classes in the fall to become Catholic. WHAT???!!!
I bought a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and sat down with it to make big checkmarks by everything that was wrong with the Catholic faith so that I could keep my third friend from converting. Within pages, I was struck by the reasonableness and the beauty of the explanations, the quotations, and the abundant references to Scripture. I still read the whole thing, making big checkmarks next to those things that were suspect, in my opinion, but I also wrote marginal notes, such as "beautiful!" and "I believe this!"
In the course of the reading the Holy Spirit convicted me of prejudice against Catholics that was almost as deep as my DNA, since it was hereditary, passed down from generations before me. I went through quite a time of repentence. After that I had a much more teachable attitude, and I learned fast.
As fast as I posed my questions, the Lord brought people, books, TV or internet connections with answers. My last question had to do with the Pope, and the Lord unfolded from Scripture the explanation, and I was satisfied.
From the time of receiving the Christmas letter from my first friend, to the time when I called my third friend to tell her I would be taking the RCIA classes with her, 9 months had elapsed...well, elapsed sounds kind of easy and passive...let's say I wrestled with God during those 9 months.
Approximately 9 months after that, I was received into the Catholic Church.
I see the 9 months as significant, as it takes that long for a human to be conceived, to grow in the womb, and to be born into the world. It took 9 months for me twice. From the time the idea was conceived to truly look into what the Catholic Church had to say about herself to the time of knowing I must follow Jesus from within the sheepfold of his Church took 9 months, and then came the slow growing in the womb of RCIA for seven months, and the two months of mystagogy, for another total of 9 months.
As I look back, though, I can see that the Lord graciously removed many obstacles from my path into the Church years before the idea of becoming Catholic ever entered my mind. What a Good Shepherd he is!
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 11:20 pm |
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I've posted about this before. I was a Southern Baptist minister for 18 years prior to my "conversion." I say it was coming into full communion with the Cahtolic Church.
I started by attending daily Masses in nearby parishes. First, not so nearby, in anohter city in fact. Then, right in the town I live in. Finally, I left the Baptist pulpit and began RCIA. This took about three years. RCIA took another year almost.
Best thing I've ever done, even If I had to start driving a truck, and now work in a warehouse lifting batteries all day.
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Posted: Fri Jul 4th, 2008 06:48 pm |
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Hi all-
I returned to Christ's loving arms in Sept. 2001. I attended RCC for a few months, because that's what I was used too, having grown up Catholic, with all my previous attempts at worship being there.
But, not understanding the reason for liturgy, I wanted to attend a church with a bible study format. For awhile, I would attend RCC for three weeks and a non-denom church on the fourth Sunday (their monthly communion day). Then, I got introduced to a wonderful church, where they had communion every week. So, then I didn't need to attend RCC anymore. I obvioulsy didn't understand the Eucharist at the time, but apparently understood the importance of it. I never let my children receive communion, as they had not received their first communion, yet. I'm so thankful for that.
As the months passed, and I fell more in love with my new church, I aslo began to really wonder about the differences of beliefs, not just between Catholics and non-Catholics, but between all denominations. I, especially, could see it in the differences of communion. And, my struggle began.
I spoke with a prayer team member about it- well, sobbed to him, actually. He assured me that he didn't think the Catholic church was a cult. What!?
I spent about 8-9 months crying in my room at night (my husband slept on the couch with a bad back), sobbing in my uncertainty, all night long, from the time I went to bed, through the night as I woke up in torment, until I climbed out of bed in the morning.
Somehow, I had become an anti-catholic Catholic. Couldn't throw it away - couldn't trust it. I sobbed to my pentacostal friend about whether she thought I would still be a Christian if I became Catholic - her answer was yes - thank God.
Anyway, I looked for a protestant/catholic bible (hellooooo) that would give me interpretations of both sides, so I could determine who had the correct interpretation (not that I knew ANYTHING that would help me make that kind of decision). Obviously, there is no such thing, but I did eventually find a book titled, "Letters Between a Catholic and Evangelical", in which a priest and pastor debated their beliefs, very respectfully.
I used to watch protestant tv., but during my 'crisis', I stopped. I also stopped reading my bible and attending church, because I didn't trust either to give me unbiased interpretation. Catholic church and Catholic bible or protestant church and protestant bible? So, I went about my days, fighting my tears, and retreated to my room at night, and cried out to God from the depths of my tortured soul. Sounds dramtic, I know, but it was so painful. I was really afraid I would go to hell - and take my kids with me, if I joined the Catholic church.
I finally bought my first Catholic book, "Rome Sweet Home", which I almost didn't, because it had the word Rome in it. I had accidently wandered into a Catholic bookstore. I think I only read a couple more books and took a couple more months before seeking out a priest. But really, for me, I came back to the church before I believed a single thing about it. I just finally told God I would come here until He proved it was wrong, rather than waiting for Him to prove it right first. At my first confession, I even confessed that I was a heretic, because I didn't believe in confession.
I did most of my struggling to accept doctrine in the couple years after coming back, and that was so difficult, because I was questioning and doubting, Christ's church, even as I was falling in love with it.
So, from my time back to Christ in 9/01 to my return to His church in 7/03 was almost two years, but from the time I started questioning to the time He graciously brought me home was about 8-9 months.
I suppose I should have just posted this in the conversion forum. Sorry 'bout that!
Much love to all,
Laura
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BodRod wrote: I was raised in a strong ant-catholic religion. I went through their school system up through the college level. One day I saw, bought and read a book entitled Why Do Catholics Do That? by Kevin Johnson. To cut a long story short, I was impressed by the contents of the book. Next, I saw some free lessons on the Internet and I took 3 sets of them. (The price was right.) After that, I worked on one of those correspondance Ph.D. in religion programs which lead to a degree and preacher papers. My studies and the stack of books I read took me 4.5 years. Now for the funny part. When I finished the program, I held a Ph.D. in religion, preacher papers as a protestant pastor AND I had been led directly to the door of the Catholic Church. So, the next obvious step for me was to call the local parish and get into the next RCIA term. If my calculations are correct that comes to 5.25 years.   Don't you just love God's sence of humor?
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| It's about two years and counting for me. My wife says I'm Catholic just don't attend Catholic services.
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I was raised Catholic, but obviously grew up within some type of semi-coma since I had no problem moving into Protestantism once I was married! I didn't understand or question the differences--just knew my husband was set on fire for the Lord by the pastor at our local Baptist Church, and that was good enough for me. After many years of hearing anti-Catholic rhetoric within Protestant circles, I fully embraced the lies and became anti-Catholic myself.
Then, in 2000, our Calvinist pastor discovered the early church fathers, and slowly his preaching changed. He started suggesting books for us to read like Keith Matthison's Given For You which led me to question what I really believed about communion. Then he suggested we subscribe to Touchstone magazine which I began reading regularly. The turning point for me came in October 2004 when my husband and I attended a Touchstone conference where Thomas Howard, David Mills, and Fredrica Matthews-Green were among the speakers. All the speakers were either Catholic or Orthodox and the content covered in those three days caused the scales to fall from my eyes. (Ironically, my husband was not impacted in the least by that conference.) I began reading voraciously, first about the differences between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and then Church history, the Catechism, and the stories of those who converted or reverted to Catholicism. By summer 2005 I knew I would have no peace until I returned home.
So even though the process evolved slowly over about five years, the conscious search took only about nine months.
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 05:52 pm |
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Frank T wrote:
It's about two years and counting for me. My wife says I'm Catholic just don't attend Catholic services.
Hello, Frank. Welcome to the CHNI forum! 
I hope you find helpful information and support here. We will look forward to hearing more about your journey when you are ready to share.
God bless you,
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3John4 wrote:
I was raised Catholic, but obviously grew up within some type of semi-coma since I had no problem moving into Protestantism once I was married! I didn't understand or question the differences--just knew my husband was set on fire for the Lord by the pastor at our local Baptist Church, and that was good enough for me. After many years of hearing anti-Catholic rhetoric within Protestant circles, I fully embraced the lies and became anti-Catholic myself.
Then, in 2000, our Calvinist pastor discovered the early church fathers, and slowly his preaching changed. He started suggesting books for us to read like Keith Matthison's Given For You which led me to question what I really believed about communion. Then he suggested we subscribe to Touchstone magazine which I began reading regularly. The turning point for me came in October 2004 when my husband and I attended a Touchstone conference where Thomas Howard, David Mills, and Fredrica Matthews-Green were among the speakers. All the speakers were either Catholic or Orthodox and the content covered in those three days caused the scales to fall from my eyes. (Ironically, my husband was not impacted in the least by that conference.) I began reading voraciously, first about the differences between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and then Church history, the Catechism, and the stories of those who converted or reverted to Catholicism. By summer 2005 I knew I would have no peace until I returned home.
So even though the process evolved slowly over about five years, the conscious search took only about nine months.
Dede
Dede, have other members of that congregation come into the Church? Has the pastor himself embraced Catholicism?
Becky
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Becky,
The pastor, along with twelve members became Eastern Orthodox in 2007. He is now an Antiochian Orthodox priest. Four of us reverted to Catholicism. The remaining majority (including my husband) have moved away from the liturgy and teachings our pastor tried to instill and back to Baptist-style evangelical Protestantism.
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Becky,
The pastor, along with twelve members became Eastern Orthodox in 2007. He is now an Antiochian Orthodox priest. Four of us reverted to Catholicism. The remaining majority (including my husband) have moved away from the liturgy and teachings our pastor tried to instill and back to Baptist-style evangelical Protestantism.
Dede
Wow, what an interesting story.
Becky
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| Long before I was actively pursuing the Catholic church, I knew that the something was wrong with the churches I was trying to go to. I was told I didn't belong in the Presbyterian church because I thought women shouldn't be pastors. The Methodists aren't even required to believe in the divinity of Christ(and I had a pastor who didn't) so they were out. I found that the Non-denominational churches had little doctrinal substance and were all about a Christian culture and fellowship, so they weren't doing anything for me. I felt it was empty to attend a worship service that was all about being entertained. I wanted to go to church and feel like I had a real purpose in being there, like I had gotten something accomplished by being there. Because of my kids, I felt that I couldn't just stop going to church because I wasn't getting anything out of it. So I was going to a Weslyan church, sort of like non denominational but doesn't believe in once saved-always saved. When my new husband began making noises about reverting to being Catholic(he was a Baptist for 20-odd years when I met him) I started researching it on the internet. I had been under the impression that you were either born Catholic or converted from being Heathen but going from protestant to Catholic was not an option. I also thought my being previously married made me unwelcome. I checked the web sites of all the local churches and picked the one that looked the most suited and called and spent 2 hours asking questions of the DRE. I never went back to the Wesleyan church but my annulment took over a year.
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