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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 08:16 pm

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I had decided that if there was a very low turnout last night, that it must be the "summer" thing causing far less participation (just as we also see on the board) and that I would cancel the chat until September. We never had more than four at a time (including myself), for the entire two-hour duration, so that was a good enough "sign" to me (after having similar numbers last week)!

I'm the one that's gotta be there the whole time and make a commitment as moderator, so when there is so few turnout it's not quite fair to me (and I'm one who loves lively, fast-moving conversation, that is far better achieved with more people present). No one is at fault, and (don't get me wrong!) I enjoyed chatting with the ones last night who did come: it's just the nature of the "slower" summer season, vacations and other activities, etc.

By the way, the chat room is open at all times for anyone to visit. If two or three or more people decide together to meet there at a certain time, then they can do that. Folks can even still show up at the regular chat time on Wednesday if they like, but it won't be a formal meeting time over the summer and I won't be there as a (very low key) "moderator."

I was gonna be gone for much of August anyway, as my family is planning a huge trip out west.

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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 08:52 pm

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Where are ya gonna be "out west"??

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Posted: Sat Jun 28th, 2008 01:35 am

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Northern states: west through South Dakota, Wyoming Montana, Idaho, Oregon, then up through Washington to the Canadian Rockies, back through Glacier Park.

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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 02:54 pm

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I've been told that some folks are still meeting informally on both Monday and Wednesday. Anyone is free to do that if they wish (actually, the chat room is open at any time), and I was happy to hear it.

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Dave Armstrong wrote:

I was gonna be gone for much of August anyway, as my family is planning a huge trip out west.

Hi Dave :waving:

While you're traveling take a side trip to my future retirement city of Bend Oregon. Bask in the shadow of the gorgeous Cascade range with Mount Bachelor, Three Finger Jack, The Sisters, Mt. Jefferson and all the rest of the gorgeous volcanos in the region. Pay a visit to Bishop Vasa. He is the Bishop in charge of the Baker Diocese and a marvelous man from what I hear. Paddle or walk along the Deschutes River, home of some of the best fly-fishing in the West. And if golf is your thing, visit Eagle Crest in nearby Redmond or go 17 miles south of Bend and try your luck at the famous Sunriver courses. They hold the Jeld-Wen classic there each year that you can see on TV. And of course, you don't want to miss the great little Frontier mountain town of Sisters, a delightful place to stop and explore the antique stores and have a beer.
And of course, if you want beer, visit the various breweries in Bend. Deschutes Brewery, my favorite as well as the Bend Brewing Company. There are a couple of others that make our town famous for its local brews.
And when you are sober, take a walk through the Lava Tubes south of Bend, the great High Desert Museum on the south side of Bend for a great look at the history and wildlife of the area.
Now that you've had a biased Chamber of Commerce invitation, have a great vacation.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 09:52 pm

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Thanks for the info, Rich! We're gonna come in at the Northeast corner, where the Nez Perce Indians used to live (I hear it is a gorgeous spot), then basically follow the Columbia River to Mt. Hood and turn north to Washington and Mt. Rainier and the Cascade range up there, en route to the Canadian Rockies. Is that near these things you recommend? I'll check out a map too. Two years ago, we drove through the southeastern desert section, making our way back east after having gone through California. I wish we had made plans to do a different route and include Crater Lake. It's too far south to see this time.

No time for golf with three kids in tow (one of ours is gonna be at a camp for autistic children instead: his choice!). I don't play anyway.

I love how pretty golf courses are, though. I'm not a fisherman, either. Usually we hike, swim, or visit museums and historical sites on our trips. The more free stuff the better!

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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 10:24 pm

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Dave Armstrong wrote:
I wish we had made plans to do a different route and include Crater Lake. It's too far south to see this time.

Meanwhile, here's a shot I took of Crater Lake that you can put on your computer's desktop.

Becky

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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 03:07 am

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Beautiful picture of Crater Lake. I lived in Bend, Oregon, for 5 years before moving to Colorado 13 years ago.

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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:37 am

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Beautiful picture of Crater Lake. I lived in Bend, Oregon, for 5 years before moving to Colorado 13 years ago.

Love Crater Lake. Our new home Howard is just southeast of Pilot Butte in the Tanglewood division. You are probably familiar with the area. Just off Reed Market Road. Lots of nice homes in the area. Although I doubt the house we bought there was there when you lived there. Bend has really grown, sad to say. But I hear the have a good Catholic church there which will interest me. The Presbyterian church up there is pretty liberal. I just hope I can get my wife to go with me.

Dave, Bend is 2 or 3 hours north of where you will be as you explore the Columbia Gorge. Too bad you'll miss it, it's nice country. As for swimming, by then the river will be relatively warm. Remember, this is high desert. In the spring it's all snow melt and runoff...plenty cold. By the end of summer, swimming is a bit more comfortable. But you'll have tons of fun in the other places. I've been all over the Northwest. I have lots of family in Oregon and Washington.

Drive carefully...I sure hope you have an economical car. Gas ain't cheap out here. At last check 30 seconds ago it was $4:13 for regular in Bend.
Oh...one word regarding gas stations in Oregon. There are no self serve. All gas is pumped by attendants. However, you'll probably have to wash the bugs off your windshield yourself. And if a driver comes up behind you and blinks his lights on the freeway you'd better move to the right if you can. It's the law. Speaking from experience. But there are no state sales taxes in Oregon. That's nice. Do all your shopping in Oregon.

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Bend is 2 or 3 hours north of where you will be as you explore the Columbia Gorge.
Uh, “south,” Rich. (I know you meant that. You just had the keyboard upside down as you typed.) Bend is just west of the geographical center of the state. Beautiful country. (I’m speaking as a former Oregonian. Celebrating 34 years in Texas this month.)

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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:54 am

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Howard, glad you liked the pic of Crater Lake.
Rich, I didn't get much use out of my cell phone while in that area.

One unnerving experience involved driving on never-ending gravel roads through forests, looking for a relative's house. There must have been twenty forks in the road with no identification for either fork. Meanwhile it was getting dark and there was no service for the cell phone. Scary stuff for a female driving alone in an unfamiliar area. Yike.

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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 03:17 am

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Hey Rich! I do know where your new home is. We lived in Deschutes River Woods south of Bend and just north of the High Desert Museum (an awesome place if you haven't been there yet). My parents and one sister and her family used to live there as well but we have all moved away. My parents, my sister and her husband moved to Florence on the coast and we moved to Colorado.

It was and is a beautiful place. We have fond memories and drive through there occasionally on the way to see family. We still have friends there.

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No joke, Becky. A California man got lost and stuck in the snow with his family between Bend and Klamath Falls a winter or two ago. His family stayed with the car and were rescued but he didn't make it because he tried to go get help.

Eastern Oregon is pretty empty except right around Bend. Kind of like SE Colorado.

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One more thing, Rich.

I noticed your previous location was Sunnyvale, CA.

I used to live in Palo Alto. Graduated from Gunn High School and went to Foothill College. My wife and I met at Peninsula Bible Church in Palo Alto and were married there. My dad worked for Lockheed in Sunnyvale.

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Bend is 2 or 3 hours north of where you will be as you explore the Columbia Gorge.
Uh, “south,” Rich. (I know you meant that. You just had the keyboard upside down as you typed.) Bend is just west of the geographical center of the state. Beautiful country. (I’m speaking as a former Oregonian. Celebrating 34 years in Texas this month.)

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Hey, cut me some slack. I'm on the cusp of senior citizen. I've earned the right to think one thing and speak another. Or is it the other way around...I don't seem to remember. :roflol:

Yeah...I know. Just as I said...I meant South when I said North. It is confusing there you know. The Deschutes River runs North toward where it dumps into the Columbia. North is downhill from Bend.

And Howard, I know Florence too. I had an Aunt and Uncle who used to live there. I love that little town. Especially Moe's Chowder Restaurant. Dave, you'll have to find Moe's Chowder if you get to the coast. I think they have restaurants up and down the coast. Great thick New England style chowder that's almost thick enough to stand your spoon up.
The only problem with Florence is there is too much rain and nearly every winter they have storms with Hurricane force winds blow through there.
It's beautiful tho.

Also, I'm still in Sunnyvale. We won't retire until around Spring of 2011. Then we'll move to Bend. We have good renters in our place there now. I hope they stay. We've been very fortunate to have good people who care for the place.

We know PBC. (Peninsula Bible Church) for those who don't know the place. We were there in the late 70's when Ray Stedman was still the senior pastor. Ron Ritchie, who was on the staff there is a good friend of mine. I guess he's a pastor emeritis there now but spends most of his time at our church, Menlo Park Presbyterian. He and I will often trade off teaching one of our pastor's classes when the pastor is gone. Ron also has quite a ministry of his own. He loves the Lord and will die with his boots on sharing Jesus. His favorite phrase for witnessing Christ is "Just show up." I don't think there is a homeless person in town where he hasn't helped in one way or another.
He grew up a Catholic, but his Catholic background was a negative experience.

Well, now that I've got my directions straight...Thanks David...I'll stumble my way back onto the fringes of this forum and watch.

By the way David, why in the world did you leave God's country for Texas??? of all places?

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Hi Rich,

Small world. Ron Ritchie was the pastor who did our wedding in 1975. The last time we saw him was when he was the pastor at Fellowship Bible Church in Colorado Springs a few years ago. He was my wife's youth pastor at PBC in the early 70's. He also was the main pastor at the Body Life service on Sunday nights back then.

And here we both are at the CHN forum. Very interesting!

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Howard the Pilgrim wrote:
Hi Rich,

Small world. Ron Ritchie was the pastor who did our wedding in 1975. The last time we saw him was when he was the pastor at Fellowship Bible Church in Colorado Springs a few years ago. He was my wife's youth pastor at PBC in the early 70's. He also was the main pastor at the Body Life service on Sunday nights back then.

And here we both are at the CHN forum. Very interesting!

My My, what a small world. My wife was really active there at PBC in the 70's in the singles ministry that Ron had at the old Menu Tree Restaurant in Mountain View. I was in the Christian & Missionary Alliance at the time and was recovering from a nasty divorce when I met her in a small group Bible study of the singles from that group. She may have known your wife.

Sorry, the rest of you. I know this isn't a Catholic discussion, but it's fun to find people who have common connections. So, Howard, are you on your journey to the Tiber?

Drop me a private message if you want and we can maybe find out if my wife and your wife may have known each other. I won't be able to answer for a couple of days since I can't communicate from work and tomorrow I'll be in my weight loss class. 50 lbs so far gang. whooo hooo.

By the way, I'll be seeing Ron this Sunday...Anything you'd like to say to him? I know he'd be a bit disturbed if I said I was on a Catholic forum, but he's such a gentleman, he'd never say anything negative. Oh...we call him Moses around here. He looks just like Charlton Heston with his gray mane and beard.

Well...it's time for me to go into the sanctuary and then prepare for bed. 4:30 comes early.

See ya'll. I'll be lurkin'

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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 03:26 am

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rbo4u2 wrote:
Howard the Pilgrim wrote:

And here we both are at the CHN forum. Very interesting!

By the way, did your wife know a lady by the name of Liz Walters? That's not her name now. She's married. Liz and my wife were best friends.
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I'm on the cusp of senior citizen.
So am I, Rich. I have to double check everything.

By the way David, why in the world did you leave God's country for Texas??? of all places?
Got tired of the rain. (Yeah, I know, Bend is a different story. But I was in Portland.)

But tell me, if Oregon is God’s country, why does it have the lowest percentage of religious believers in the country? Not to mention legalized assisted suicide. I never understood that.

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David W. Emery wrote: I'm on the cusp of senior citizen.
So am I, Rich. I have to double check everything.

By the way David, why in the world did you leave God's country for Texas??? of all places?
Got tired of the rain. (Yeah, I know, Bend is a different story. But I was in Portland.)

But tell me, if Oregon is God’s country, why does it have the lowest percentage of religious believers in the country? Not to mention legalized assisted suicide. I never understood that.

David

Whoo Hooo...I broke through the barriers here at work...for now.

Oregon has got to be God's country. Where else does a place need more of his presence than Oregon. I figure if Jesus ate with the publicans, prostitutes and sinners, than Oregon has got to be where he is spending a lot of time.

So you move from a little rain to tornado country....hmmmm. I'm not sure that's a fair trade. But I guess you go where the jobs are because they sure ain't in Oregon...'cept maybe Portland area.

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Oregon has got to be God's country. Where else does a place need more of his presence than Oregon. I figure if Jesus ate with the publicans, prostitutes and sinners, than Oregon has got to be where he is spending a lot of time.
I would accept it as being God’s mission country. But then all places seem to qualify for that designation.

So you move from a little rain to tornado country.... hmmmm.
I’m much farther south than that, Rich. Same latitude as southern Florida. The amount of tornado activity in my area is about the same as what I experienced in Oregon. Here we get hurricanes.

I guess you go where the jobs are because they sure ain't in Oregon.
Maybe I’m the exception that proves the rule, but I haven’t changed employers in 30 years. However, you do need to know that unemployment in this area is higher than in Oregon, and per capita income for the county I live in is dead last in the country. Yet the people here have their cellular phones and their SUVs just like everybody else because the overall cost of living is lower, too. It’s all relative.

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David W. Emery wrote: Oregon has got to be God's country. Where else does a place need more of his presence than Oregon. I figure if Jesus ate with the publicans, prostitutes and sinners, than Oregon has got to be where he is spending a lot of time.
I would accept it as being God’s mission country. But then all places seem to qualify for that designation.

So you move from a little rain to tornado country.... hmmmm.
I’m much farther south than that, Rich. Same latitude as southern Florida. The amount of tornado activity in my area is about the same as what I experienced in Oregon. Here we get hurricanes.

I guess you go where the jobs are because they sure ain't in Oregon.
Maybe I’m the exception that proves the rule, but I haven’t changed employers in 30 years. However, you do need to know that unemployment in this area is higher than in Oregon, and per capita income for the county I live in is dead last in the country. Yet the people here have their cellular phones and their SUVs just like everybody else because the overall cost of living is lower, too. It’s all relative.

David

Hurricanes, tornados, not a great choice for me. I'll take my earthquakes anyday.

Isn't it a shame how we Americans seem so infatuated with our toys. We must be an awfully bored bunch. We just can't live without a new toy to play with until we get bored with it. My cell phone is rarely on let alone used. I'm a rarity I know, but for me it's just an emergency device in case I need to contact my wife. But this old dinosaur just can't stand the idea of that 100 lb anchor sitting on my waist just waiting for someone to find me and call me.

But then, my tv gets little use either. Just give me a good book and I'm happy. It's funny how what we call "necessities" end up on the trash heap when the chips are down in our lives.

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rbo4u2 wrote: Hurricanes, tornados, not a great choice for me. I'll take my earthquakes anyday.
At least we know when a hurricane is coming!

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CajunRick wrote: rbo4u2 wrote: Hurricanes, tornados, not a great choice for me. I'll take my earthquakes anyday.
At least we know when a hurricane is coming!

And at least we know that 99 and 9/10 percent of the earthquakes that hit us are inconsequential and leave no damage. :dude:

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