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kersca
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 04:11 pm |
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If you haven't been there, surf on over to:
http://www.catholicscomehome.org/
If you watch the commercials and are like me you might be wondering why your own diocese isn't doing a program like this one. In detroit there are so many people who walk around with the proverbial grudge to bear against the Catholic Church. Maybe this is everywhere. I just know that former Catholics are one of the biggest voices that criticize the Church. Of course, I find that funny because former protestants who become Catholic often speak tenderheartedly and affectionately of their former denmominations (as do I ). So, a ministry to try to reach all those who left and have been trying to burn the never-burnable bridge with them is a great idea. I know I would give money to it! If you haven't watched the commercials, do so. They are AWESOME!!!
What do you all think? Should every diosece try something like this. Let's admit it, most people that left the Church aren't watching EWTN so maybe a commercial during the playoffs will do the trick (oh, by the way Detroit is so used to having the Stanley Cup here we just might never give it back!).
Just a thought.
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roxyorthodoxy
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 01:50 pm |
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Great idea, Adam...
I know from first hand experience that ex-Catholics are more anti-Catholic than most!!! I know two couples who left the Church and are now in an Assembly of God community and both of the wives work for the Church, one in evangelizing probably Catholics!!!
I feel so sad about this...we need to reach more ex-Catholics because of the failure of the last 40 years to properly catechise these people...it's not all their fault!
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Credo Catholic
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 03:01 pm |
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kersca wrote: I just know that former Catholics are one of the biggest voices that criticize the Church. Of course, I find that funny because former protestants who become Catholic often speak tenderheartedly and affectionately of their former denmominations (as do I ).
Just a thought.
I have found this to be true also. Most former catholics have a particular grudge to bear, and at a minimum will roll their eyes and shake their heads at the mention of the catholic church. However, former protestants remember fondly the hymn singing, and the sweet Sunday School teachers. I have not been a catholic long enough to have a great deal of experience with priests and other clergy. We have wonderful priests at our parish and although they are overworked and are not standing out on the doorstep everyday beckoning people in, they are there when needed. I agree those ads on TV are good, I have seen them a couple of times on EWTN, and I thought at the time "you're preaching to the choir!" Those ads are what should be on network channels now, the sooner the better. I would be willing to donate what I could for that purpose.
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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(oh, by the way Detroit is so used to having the Stanley Cup here we just might never give it back!).
There is always next year- by the way the Pens. fought hard- Hockey is the only sport I watch or really understand
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kersca
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 06:53 pm |
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Good luck with that, the cup that is.
Adam
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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Actually Canadian team needs to win it back just so that they (I ) can hold our heads up!  But my Dad was rooting for the Redwings too- we challenged each other by email
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 07:42 pm |
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I just know that former Catholics are one of the biggest voices that criticize the Church. Of course, I find that funny because former protestants who become Catholic often speak tenderheartedly and affectionately of their former denmominations I think sometimes that it is a way to justify their guilt at leaving- for some it was the "easy" path to leave- because of contraception issues, marriage to a non Catholic or divorce- I don't know how many people I have talked to who have said " They (the Church) turned me away becuase I got divorced (or remarried). IN our culture today is is just expected that divorce is the norm- people say-"I was too young" or "that was the marriage of my youth" as if that explains everything. In reality through the ages people have married young and not divorced. We are also not a culture expected to "do our duty" unless we WANT to- I am not slamming the divorced here on the list really I am not but I look at couples that have lasted 25 and 30 years and know that it wasn't all sweetness and light in their marriages. I know that there are also many marriages out there that need to end - makes me wonder if we are looking for the wrong things in marriage in the first place? Also our western culture is anti child- anti family- if I got a penny for everytime I heard scorn being heaped on a family that has just had a third or 4th child I would be rich. If I point out that I regret only having two kids and for years prayed for more( I am greatful for the two I have) I am looked at as an oddity (who possibly was prevented from folly by outside circumstances) On another thread I upset someone by using the word duty alnog with Mass attendance- what gets a little lost in our world today is that WE OWE GOD our prayer and worship and it should not be all about US and what WE get from the service. My SB family will say "well that was an uplifting sermon" or "well I didn't get anything out that fellowship today" but why should we expect to always recieve- maybe sometimes we should just give. and this may have gone a little 
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roxyorthodoxy
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 08:51 pm |
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I think sometimes that it is a way to justify their guilt at leaving- for some it was the "easy" path to leave- because of contraception issues, marriage to a non Catholic or divorce- I
Kim,
I agree with your statement here! My cousin's husband is AofG and is anti-Catholic, it was in her best interest to convert if she was going to stay married to him. Loads of people can't understand the Catholic stance on contraception, etc. A lot of the Protestant denominations are a little loose on their rules on: abortion, contraception, gay marriage, etc.
They like the lively services, great entertainers, etc. And they aren't so hard to understand. They draw people in with their easy to understand services. Think about it! The Mass in all its beauty and splendor is a great mystery. Especially the Eucharist. Look at John 6 52-60.
Especially, John 6 v. 60 ..."how can anyone take it seriously?"
I enjoy this website (the catholics come home) and intend to support it both in prayer and financially. I hope many on this board will do so too. 
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 09:03 pm |
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In detroit there are so many people who walk around with the proverbial grudge to bear against the Catholic Church.
Hi, again Adam,
I think the Detroit diocese had the most people in RCIA last year....it could be because of the awesome Director of Evangelization, Deacon Alex Jones.
He's a former Pentecostal minister who brought in 50 plus of his congregation to the RCC!!!! I love the way he preaches! I think he was on the Journey Home a while back.
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 09:46 pm |
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Alex Jones teaches RCIA?! Wow, I;d take the classes all over again if I could sit under his teaching!
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 11:37 pm |
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Hi, Jane,
I don't think he teaches RCIA but I am sure he is an influence on all the Religious Ed in the Detroit area.
(He would be an awesome RCIA teacher, though!)
Roxy O.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 12:16 am |
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Wow, Kim, all of that is so true... people will say anything to justify their actions, especially nowadays when we are as a society are just too lazy most of the time to do the right thing. The Catholic Church requires a lot of things from us that are in our best interests, though certainly not easy.
I've been married for 15 years, and of course it hasn't been easy a good deal of the time. I even returned to the Church while my husband stayed a pagan.... and he was raised to be very anti-Catholic and has expressed very hateful things about the Church. It's tough. But the warmth and belonging I feel in the Church is so worth it.
I agree, I'd gladly send a donation to EWTN so they could air these fantastic commercials on network TV.
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kersca
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 11:32 am |
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It's funny you mention Alex Jones. I am taking some catechist training workshops at the seminary this week and there was this guy who knew his stuff about the faith. On a break, I asked him if he was a convert (we converts usually stick out like sore thumbs). Well, he was! He was a minister in Alex Jones's congregattion. I am very familiar with the story of Alex Jones and his conversion (I even own a videotape of his testimony). It was pretty awesome. God puts people in our lives sometimes in such amazing ways!
Adam
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 06:29 pm |
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kimdyuma wrote: it is a way to justify their guilt at leaving- for some it was the "easy" path to leave- because of contraception issues, marriage to a non Catholic or divorce Agreed Kim!!
BTW, the 'largest Catholic parish' in Ashburn here is the Methodist church - its full of fallen-away Catholics. Oddly, I have gotten the impression that the pastor there is less anti-Catholic than they are! My fallen-away neighbor told me how this pastor explained in a sermon to them that Catholics don't worship Mary and that we ask for her prayers as we might of anybody.
Go figger.
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