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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 05:03 pm |
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Can anyone recommend some Catholic colleges? I'm a community college student looking to transfer in fall '10 as a music major. I would prefer to stay in California but am open to going elsewhere.
Also, are there any non-Catholic (secular or non-Catholic Christian) colleges you know of or have experience with that you would recommend to a Catholic or someone who is thinking about becoming Catholic?
Santa Clara University: this is one I have been considering for awhile, even before I started thinking about becoming Catholic. Any thoughts on this school, whether positive, negative, or somewhere in between? http://www.scu.edu
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 05:13 pm |
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MissMusicTeacher wrote: Can anyone recommend some Catholic colleges? I'm a community college student looking to transfer in fall '10 as a music major. I would prefer to stay in California but am open to going elsewhere.
Also, are there any non-Catholic (secular or non-Catholic Christian) colleges you know of or have experience with that you would recommend to a Catholic or someone who is thinking about becoming Catholic?
Santa Clara University: this is one I have been considering for awhile, even before I started thinking about becoming Catholic. Any thoughts on this school, whether positive, negative, or somewhere in between? http://www.scu.edu
Muchas gracias!
Hi Laura. My wife got her Masters from Santa Clara. It has a good rating for academics, but if you want a good spiritual foundation, I'd be extremely wary. They are noted for their "diversity" courses and support for the gay community. I think they are extremely liberal theologically. I don't know anything about their music training, although I'm sure it's good.
Beyond that, I'm not familiar with any good Catholic schools on the West Coast except the seminaries like John Paul II university in San Diego that is just getting started and is very small and a fine seminary St. Thomas Aquinas. But it doesn't appear to have a music program to speak of.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 04:14 pm |
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Laura -
I'm so excited for you that you have the opportunity to consider a Catholic college!
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 12:47 am |
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rbo4u2 wrote:
It has a good rating for academics, but if you want a good spiritual foundation, I'd be extremely wary. They are noted for their "diversity" courses and support for the gay community. I think they are extremely liberal theologically.
Thank you for the feedback on Santa Clara, Rich. I suspected as much when I saw some of the courses they offered. They do have a good music program but if I go there, I will definitely be careful with the theology.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! 
Has anyone heard of Holy Names University in Oakland, CA? That is another one I am considering. They also have an excellent music program and they seem to be more conservative theologically. http://www.hnu.edu
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 02:28 am |
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MissMusicTeacher wrote:
rbo4u2 wrote:
It has a good rating for academics, but if you want a good spiritual foundation, I'd be extremely wary. They are noted for their "diversity" courses and support for the gay community. I think they are extremely liberal theologically.
Thank you for the feedback on Santa Clara, Rich. I suspected as much when I saw some of the courses they offered. They do have a good music program but if I go there, I will definitely be careful with the theology.
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! 
Has anyone heard of Holy Names University in Oakland, CA? That is another one I am considering. They also have an excellent music program and they seem to be more conservative theologically. http://www.hnu.edu
Can't help you on Holy Names Laura.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 04:23 pm |
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Laura,
I have a suggestion. Call "Catholic Answers Live" on a weekday evening. One of the hosts might be able to steer you in a good direction. On the other hand, I'm not sure if they could actually give names of colleges over the air, but they might transfer you to someone who could talk to you off of the radio waves.
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Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 06:22 am |
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Laura, would you be interested in a small Catholic university in Miami?
When you get a moment, click on this link: http://www.stu.edu/
This is my alma mater, although when I went there it was known solely as Biscayne College. (Nowadays BC has come back, but it's under STU.)
STU is owned by the Archdiocese so you know it has to have THAT Roman, seal of approval and I think they've been rounding up all their usual liberal suspects for getting a tighter rein on things. Yes, things are indeed changing under Benedict!
Hope this helps and good luck with finding a good Catholic college and everything else.
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Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 02:06 pm |
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Ok I have been paying attention to this thread and continuing my own research but I have to ask. Other than Catholic University of America, Notre Dame and Steubenville, are their any other catholic graduate schools ya'll would recommend? Ideally I would be going for an MDiv (for laymen of course! ) but depending on the program I would consider an MA. I am also looking at UD and St Mary's in Houston, and will apply to these programs, since I happen to be in Texas but I am really looking for out of state schools to compliment my research results.
Thanks as always!
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Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 10:44 pm |
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MissMusicTeacher wrote: Can anyone recommend some Catholic colleges? I'm a community college student looking to transfer in fall '10 as a music major. I would prefer to stay in California but am open to going elsewhere.
Also, are there any non-Catholic (secular or non-Catholic Christian) colleges you know of or have experience with that you would recommend to a Catholic or someone who is thinking about becoming Catholic?
Santa Clara University: this is one I have been considering for awhile, even before I started thinking about becoming Catholic. Any thoughts on this school, whether positive, negative, or somewhere in between? http://www.scu.edu
Muchas gracias! 
Thomas Aquinas College out in California. I "think" they have a music major. One of my friend's daughters is heading there this fall, and I think she's planning on majoring in music.
Not certain if they have a music major, but Franciscan University of Steubenville is an excellent Catholic institution.
Have you checked out the The Newman Guide to Choosing a Catholic College? It lists some of the faithful Catholic colleges and universities.
http://www.catholichighered.org/TheNewmanGuide/tabid/356/Default.aspx
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Posted: Mon Aug 11th, 2008 08:09 pm |
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Callie,
I almost hate to put a rap on any Catholic college, (unless it's totally sold out to the world like the all-but-formerly Jesuit colleges in St. Louis and Washington, DC. (let's see, it's name begins with a G, and the only graduate it produced who wound up in the White House was impeached -- though at least his troubles had something to do with members of the opposite gender persuasion) but -- I'm troubled about another DC-based college you mentioned, Catholic University of America.
It's my understanding that if a Catholic is to take a job as a professor at any Catholic college or university, he or she's supposed to be loyal to the Church's teachings. (Too much to ask? Baptists don't have any problems getting this minimal committment.) And this should especially hold true for a Pontifical College of all places. This place responds directly to nowhere elsel BUT ROME.
So it was a major shock to read some of Leslie Woodcock Tentler's remarks in a recent edition of Commonweal Magazine (July 18, 2008) in a post-mortem article about Hillary Clinton's sunken campaign. Tentler supported Clinton then comes out full-bore for Obama. It's one thing for Democratic Catholics (who are not big honchos who've chosen to be honchos and push the party line which includes the most blatantly pro-abortion platform plank yet written -- a dubious "achievement" in itself) -- only to see how badly they've been conned and pulled back -- Prof. Tentler, who openly brags about her intellect and intellectual buddies throughout the article makes no apologies to her readers, some of whom, albeit I'll bet are mostly liberals since Commonweal is THE mag of Catholic libs, might yet take offense at such an egregious thumbing in the Vatican's eye.
If you want a real Catholic college that's even more genuinely Catholic ("to the bone") than even my alma mater St. Thomas University that's owned by the Miami Archdiocese, you might want to look into Ave Maria University, a hundred or so miles worth of swamp and alligators away on FL's west coast. They drained the swamp to build the school, but if you go there and would still like to have a Gator as a companion, you might want to see what our moderator from the Bayou State can arrange. But a warning, even though Ave Maria has a great president, Fr. Joseph Fessio (a protege of Pope Benedict) and great curriculum, Cajunrick might not feel Florida's good enough for any Louisiana Gator.
Good luck no matter what. I'm sure you'll be lead by God to the right place, or out of there to another even better Catholic college if the first one doesn't work out.
HE won't let you down. 
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Steven Barrett wrote: Cajunrick might not feel Florida's good enough for any Louisiana Gator.
I have no problem with any Cajun, including gators, who leaves Louisiana for a good Catholic education.
As long as they are not sports stars at an SEC school besides LSU, and as long as they come back home afterwards.
And even then, kids need a chance to get away from home for a few years, so they get a "pass" even for bad choices (like going to Tennessee, or Georgia, or Alabama, or Mississippi, or Arkansas, etc.). And they have to remember where they're from, and come back home for Mardi Gras.
Even if they happen to be brothers who are consecutive Super Bowl MVP's.
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Posted: Tue Aug 12th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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Awwwww, you had to bring up those guys. . Man, that hurt!
By the way, the priests at my college had mid-terms and Mardi-Gras matched to perfection every year. Funny how that reduced our traveling plans. What a coincidence!
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 01:06 am |
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 01:17 am |
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CajunRick wrote:
And even then, kids need a chance to get away from home for a few years, so they get a "pass" even for bad choices (like going to Tennessee, or Georgia, or Alabama, or Mississippi, or Arkansas, etc.). And they have to remember where they're from, and come back home for Mardi Gras.
Even if they happen to be brothers who are consecutive Super Bowl MVP's.
Rick - at least you didn't mention Texas.
And by the way Steven - go Giants! (Grew up in NY).
Laura,
I will be praying for you to be abl to make the bes choice that is available to you.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 04:12 am |
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There's a reason he didn't mention Texas. To quote a popular bummper sticker "I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could!"
Btw, Ave Maria was a helpful addition to my list thanks!
I am very eager to start applying to all the schools on my list soon. 
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 03:32 pm |
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I'm glad you added Ave Maria to your list , it's an awesome university. I personally wasn't a music major at Ave but one of my old roommates is one. If by chance you'd ever like to have her answer any questions about the program I'm sure she'd love to help you out!
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 04:47 pm |
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L I think there's been son confusion and I obviously should have started a new thread.
Laura was looking at catholic undergrad music programs, she incidentaly started the conversation.
I was actually looking for catholic graduate studies in ministry, perferably MDiv programs geared toward laymen (that would accept females).
Sorry for the confusion! 
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 04:50 pm |
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Ok, sorry about that, I see what happened now :-). 
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Posted: Wed Aug 13th, 2008 08:03 pm |
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NP 
However, if you now any of the seminarians that would be neat. 
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Oh, it's tough being a Patriots fan these days and you Giants or Manning Bros. fans are great for digging it in. C'mon, Tom Brady's a Catholic; flawed, but Catholic. Gotta mean something on these boards anyway.
One thing I remembered from my college days when Biscayne was dominated by a large contigent of NY or Phila area students, is that whenever New York or Philly teams would win, esp. over Boston in any sports, dese guys were the world's woist, and I mean world's worst, even woise than Boston fans, when it came to rubbing the other guy's nose in da ground.
But if a kid who came from out of a public h.s. out in western MA could pull through four years, anybody could. And I mean anybody. 
PS: STU has a great MDiv program and arrangement with Barry Univ. that has a music program. And both schools provide courses in hurricane mgmt.
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