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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 01:30 am |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama
Click and read all about it: Obama finally quits his controversial church.
If he moves this slowly on a matter like this which could've sunk his campaign had he not built such a lead, how slow is he going to move on a real toughie should he win the Oval Office? But take a look at these quotes; they're priceless for a good chuckle:
"I have no idea how it will impact my presidential campaign but I know it was the right thing to do for me and my family," he said.
"This was a pretty personal decision and I was not trying to make political theater out of it," he added.
You said what, Senator? 
What shocked me was watching Fr. Pfleger's moves. I had no idea white Catholic priests could give a sermon like that. On the other hand, it's best we don't encourage more of it! 
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tedjenczewski
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 01:55 am |
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| Fr Pfleger needs a talk from his bishop about the practice of humility as a preist. I wonder if he reads the Liturgy of the Hours every day as required for his vocation.
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 02:32 am |
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After watching that guy, I wonder if he just sits down!  Or, who put the Adderall (legal "speed") in his coffee that day?
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maryjean
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 02:48 am |
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Seeing that 'performance' made me embarrassed to be Catholic. If it had happened before I came into the Church...I probably wouldn't have! I am more deeply offended than I can begin to describe. If our priest EVER mocked anyone from ANY pulpit like that I'd walk out on the spot and NEVER/EVER speak to him again! And if there had been ANY chance I would have voted for Barak "Eddie Haskill" Obama, it's gone now.
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 11:19 am |
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maryjean wrote: Seeing that 'performance' made me embarrassed to be Catholic.
Me too, My wife, who is VERY anti-Catholic, was shocked that a priest could preach (read yell) that way and say those kinds of things. She did not get a good impression of priests from that clip. 
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 12:59 pm |
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He looked more like a few Assemblies of God pastors I've seen in action. lol
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 01:28 pm |
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| Right! Toss in a little speaking in tongues and he could be on TBN.
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 04:45 pm |
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maryjean wrote: Seeing that 'performance' made me embarrassed to be Catholic.
Me too. I can't for the life of me understand how any priest can pull such hijinks and get away with it. I really wish there were some sort of bishops' court where clergy would be called on the carpet publicly and show the world all catholics (most catholics) do not condone this miscarriage of holy orders.
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 05:30 pm |
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Don't worry, Cardinal George will attempt to "trade him for a seminarian to be named later" as they'd say in baseball, and Pfleger's next calling assignment would be in some gawdforsaken parish (consisting of a tiny chapel) with a near-outhouse serving as its rectory, converting snake handlers. But the snakes wouldn't be the kind Kobe Bryant most likely jumped over. These bad boys will be for real.
Oh, he'll be hallerin,' dancin,' and jumpin' then, sho nuff! Not that I want to see him permanently disappear, but for the scandal he brought upon Christ's Church, not to mention its individual clergy, members, the good folks in RCIA, all respectable Christian denominations in the country and our political system in general, a zap here, a hisss there and a few fang marks in few places would be just punishment for a buffoon like Pfleger.
On the other hand, the good Chicago prelate might face some severe difficulties. After all, what bishop, archbishop or cardinal in his right mind would take Pfleger for a seminarian in this post-post Vatian II era of better priestly formation? I wouldn't give a first year-seminarian from the most liberal Kumbaya Katholic Krowd kind of family for another Kumbaya Katholic Kowboy like Pfleger!
You can make something out of that kid, at least. 
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 05:43 pm |
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Oh, but if the Cardinal's not up for my trade/transfer suggestion, he might want to consider handing this guy over to Fr. Corapi.
I'd bet the house that after the first moment he sees Fr. Corapi's stare, Pfleger will beg to convert the snake handlers.
Awhhhhh hell, he'll be crawling on all fours as he begs for that assignment. Especially after his session with Fr. Corapi lengthens!
Yeah, I'd bet the house and even the kids lunch money and college education.And if taped, I guarantee it'd be one of, if not, THE, biggest sellers in Fr. Corapi's collection. What a sight i'll be to behold on wide-screen HD televisions! Call Doug Keck, call Marcus and beg Mother Angelica for this!
Okay, I'm in dire need of a good confession for suggesting gambling. But maybe I can mitigate my offense with another suggestion that any proceeds after taxes will be donated to a most worthy charity. (Hmmm, Fr. Corapi's mission comes to mind.)
Last edited on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 05:44 pm by Steven Barrett
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 06:46 pm |
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"Oh, but if the Cardinal's not up for my trade/transfer suggestion, he might want to consider handing this guy over to Fr. Corapi."
Thanks Steven, you've cheered me up! 
This former protestant forgets at times that there's a 'local level' and we don't have to wait for Divine Providence to deal with bad behavior. And I agree that Fr. Corapi would be just the man for the job!
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 07:39 pm |
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You're quite welcome Jean!
Here's some good news, albeit heavily "nuanced" as you'll see when you see a very familiar face behind the ("good father".)
Did somebody tip this guy off about the Fr. Corapi suggestion to make him move THIS fast? Looks like he figured he'd need some "help" so ... well, I'll let you and the others see and have a good laugh for yourself!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pfleger
Last edited on Sun Jun 1st, 2008 07:40 pm by Steven Barrett
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Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 12:32 am |
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| Fr. Pfleglers bishop ( actually a cardinal) has already denounced the good preist's remarks and said the Fr. has ageed not to participated in any way in the election campaign. I assume that includes no longer supporting "Catholics for Obama". What the cardinal really should have done is remove Fr. Pflegler from his parish and assign him to a monestary for a year to pray and reflect upon the meaning of his vocation. Fr. Pflegler has reportedly done a lot of good work in the inner city. But it appears he might now be working for his own glory rather than doing "good works" with a pure heart in the spirit of love and charity. Last edited on Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 12:48 am by tedjenczewski
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Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 01:49 am |
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 Ted, he'll have all you're hoping for him after Fr. Corapi gets a hold of him. That plus a lot more. From the looks of whom he had standing behind him when he made his apology, it looks like a stint with Fr. Corapi up in the mountains of Montana will do him just fine and certainly remove a lot of bad clerical habits; one of which is schmoozing with clerics from other Christian denominations who used to be staunch decriers of abortion.
It's time to put this guy on a westbound train for some serious reflection. He'll get it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 04:55 am |
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| I believe Fr. Pflegler's homily revealed his true opinions, and his apology does nothing for me. He "didn't intend for people to take it as a mockery?" Do I have "stupid" printed on my forehead?
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 09:21 pm |
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| Praise God. The cardinal has called (ordered?) the good preist to examine his concience and calling to his vocation as a parish preist who is to preach the gospel of salvation. He has removed Fr. Pflegler from his parish according to latest cable news reports.
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