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Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 09:30 am |
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WASHINGTON(October 9, 2007) – The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops will vote at their annual Fall General Assembly on the approval of the document Sing to the Lord: Music in Divine Worship, a revision of the guidelines for music at Mass.
The document “represents a significant rethinking of the structure and substance of what needs to be said about this important aspect of the liturgical renewal,” said Bishop Donald Trautman, outgoing chairman of the Bishops’ Committee on the Liturgy, in the documentation sent to the Bishops for their review.
The document retains and refines some of the more important elements of the original document, including the “three judgments” (liturgical, pastoral and musical appropriateness) applied in consideration of the use of music in the Liturgy. “The revised text is of significantly greater length than the original and benefits from the various new Church documents, as well as from the experience of thirty-five years since its original publication,” said Bishop Trautman.
The draft articulates more clearly a theology of the liturgical celebration and includes a reflection on Redemptionis Sacramentum, no. 116, the latest Vatican document related to the issue. It incorporates the concept of “progressive solemnity” to outline the process of choosing what to sing from among the various parts of the Mass. The text also explores the role of the composer, music in the celebration of sacraments, instrumentation, language and cultural issues, technology, copyrights and participation aids.
The original document was published in 1967, and then revised and reissued in 1972. In line with the liturgical reforms called forth by the Second Vatican Council, it sought to provide basic principles for understanding the role of music in the Liturgy while highlighting its ministerial function. The new text is twice the length of the original and came about after extensive consultation with musicians, composers and others involved in liturgy and music from throughout the United States.
Other worship-related items on the Bishops’ agenda for November include the approval of the new liturgical book, Weekday Celebrations of the Liturgy of the Word, which provides guidelines for proper use and a simpler form of the rite than the one contained in the Sunday Celebrations in the Absence of a Priest, and a revision of the present translation of the Sunday and weekday Mass readings for Lent. The revision does not change the choice of texts but rather addresses the suitability of texts for liturgical proclamation. The above article is reposted with permission of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Office of Media Relations.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 10:15 am |
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I would really like to see... er, hear... a return of Gregorian Chant (and Latin elsewhere) to the Ordinary Form, even when not being celebrated entirely in Latin. There must be some simple Gregorian Chants for the ordinary of Mass, no? I recognize the top chant on this page... it's still used in parishes I've been to on high feast days like Christmas and Easter.
I'd also like to have the Roman Gradual used in more parishes, and the use of the responsorial psalm denoted by the missalette, and hymns that correspond to the antiphons. Perhaps I don't "get it", so to speak, because I'm not the musical director at my parish, but the music we sing shouldn't be "what we feel like singing", it should be what the Church sings to God on that day.
I mean, I'm a lector, and I don't go around changing readings...
(Except that one Tuesday, but that was because I thought we were celebrating a particular saint's memorial and it turns out we weren't. And it's a good thing too, in hindsight, because otherwise, I'd have been reading about Tobit getting bird poop in his eye.)
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Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 11:14 am |
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japhy wrote: I'd have been reading about Tobit getting bird poop in his eye.)
Eeeeuw.
I agree, re: music. VII called for Gregorian chant and the Ordinary in Latin. But that has all been thrown away. And yes, chant is EASY, after all it's like talking, that's where that pulsing rythm comes from.
Try Adoro te devote.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 01:52 pm |
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| Interesting article. But what might I expect to see if and when it this vote happens? What would the changes look like? How would it spread? Would people be held accountable for following the principles?
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Posted: Wed Oct 10th, 2007 06:58 pm |
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Annie wrote: I agree, re: music. VII called for Gregorian chant and the Ordinary in Latin. But that has all been thrown away. And yes, chant is EASY, after all it's like talking, that's where that pulsing rythm comes from.
Try Adoro te devote.
I've found an amazing MIDI resource for Gregorian Chant, and it has Adoro te devote among its many other selections.
http://romaaeterna.jp/liber1/lu1855.html is Adoro te devote.
http://romaaeterna.jp/ is the home page.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11th, 2007 01:05 am |
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brian wrote: Interesting article. But what might I expect to see if and when it this vote happens? What would the changes look like? How would it spread? Would people be held accountable for following the principles?
To the best of my knowledge, Brian, a draft has not been released publicly so we really have no idea what is in store or how it will be implemented.
Typically, such documents are drafted by committees then circulated to the bishops for their comments. The committees revise the documents based on the bishops' input, and another draft is circulated. This happens several times, and it is finally brought to the bishops in a public discussion where it may be approved, rejected, amended, or tabled for further study. Like any other parliamentary meeting, there will be motions and amendments, and words and phrases will be changed here and there, until it is satisfactory to a majority or super-majority. If it is to be binding, then it will have to be submitted to the Vatican for approval. More likely it will be advisory, and each bishop will have the option to make it required in his own diocese.
A bishop may choose to implement a document like this while it is being submitted to the Vatican for approval; he does not have to wait.
Anyone with strong feelings about liturgical music could take advantage of the announcement that this discussion will take place next month to write to his bishop and make his feelings known.
Like others, I also miss Gregorian chant. I have fond memories of two little booklets known as the Gelineau Psalms (I think I spelled that right) that I remember learning in the 60's, several of which I can still sing from memory. I also have a particular fondness for John Michael Talbot's "Monk Rock" which is what is playing on my MP3 player these days, along with a couple of his other albums. The "Jesus Prayer Swing" is awesome, and I really like "Credo" and "Requiem". "Come Home Little Children" is amazing, especially because of the dual meaning ("Come home to the Father who loves you; Come home to the Mother who prays") when directed at fallen away Catholics. Every song is liturgically sound, but it's definitely rock music. It is an incredible album.
As I've said before, the music needs to be liturgically appropriate, musically sound, and theologically correct. There is no reason rock music can't be used at one mass and Gregorian Chant at the next, or even both at the same mass on occasion. JMT's "One Body In Christ" would be appropriate as a processional song (I think it's a little strong for communion, but it is liturgically appropriate and could be used at a youth mass). It was actually written as the Processional/Theme for a Eucharistic Congress!
I hope the bishops will stress a return to traditional Catholic music in both Latin and English (as well as Spanish, Vietnamese, etc.), but also encourage new music in all styles that is liturgically sound and theologically correct. As Catholics we can have it all!
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Posted: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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| My vote would be for no rock music in church. My reasons for this are several. It is distracting, it puts the focus on the band instead of the true presence of Jesus, it kind of feeds into the keeping relevant, modern, up to date style of church instead of what mass is actually for, and so on. I like rock and many other kinds of music just not during mass. Mass is the one hour per week where we focus God not what entertains us.
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Posted: Mon Oct 15th, 2007 04:40 pm |
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That makes two of us vee12. I wish they would lose the drums and guitars! And also the jazzed-up version of the Gloria. I try to sit as far away from the "racket" as possible, but the speakers work too well.
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"He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him." John 6:56
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