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Posted: Sat Aug 11th, 2007 10:21 pm |
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Dallas, Aug. 10, 2007 (CWNews.com) - The "Catholic movement" among Anglicans has come to an end, a former Episcopalian bishop has told an Episcopalian news service.
Former Bishop Clarence Pope, who recently announced his return to the Roman Catholic Church, told the newsletter The Living Church that "political correctness" had triumphed over tradition within the Anglican communion.
"Without the stable center provided by the Holy See of Peter," Bishop Pope told The Living Church, "the Catholic movement within the church will ultimately die away." Even today, he said that Anglo-Catholic impulses were not producing more than "lots of 'catholic' vestments" in Episcopal circles.
Bishop Pope revealed that he had experienced regrets after entering the Catholic Church in 1995, then leaving to return temporarily to his Texas Episcopal diocese. He said that he had "drifted back" to the Episcopal fold in part because of severe depression brought on by treatment he was receiving for cancer at that time.
The above article is reposted with permission from the Catholic News Agency.
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heardclarke
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Posted: Sun Aug 12th, 2007 12:30 am |
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I was always curious why Bishop Pope had not stayed Catholic. I don't know him personally but I admired his courage back in 1995. Glad to hear he's back!
And of course I totally agree with his statement about the Anglo-Catholic trend. There can be no true unity without obedience.
"Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram, edificabo ecclesiam meam, et portae inferi non prevalebunt contra eius. Et tibi dabo claves regni caelorum...."
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Annie
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 01:48 pm |
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| This is the reason I finally ended up Catholic, the Anglicans cannot now truly offer a via media. So I saved my tab collar shirt for old times sake.
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heardclarke
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 03:04 pm |
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Dear Annie,
Thanks for wriiting, but in my ignorance I didn't get the part about the tab collar shirt....?
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sewnsew
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 03:29 pm |
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| I am guessing that Annie was possibly a deacon- they wear a collar similar to the priest's
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Annie
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 06:05 pm |
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I was studying to be a priest and came to the conclusion I should join a REAL church instead, the one with the capital C. The Church. I was actually going to beg the bish to allow me to be a permanent deacon but they only have priests in that tiny little sect I was in. To me, the deacon job is where the rubber meets the road. I like listening to sick people and stuff. And going over and meeting their families and stuff. I can still do that, just not officially in a tab collar shirt (which pushes up my double chin and makes me look like a bullfrog, VERY attractive).
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Credo Catholic
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Posted: Mon Aug 13th, 2007 07:49 pm |
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Annie wrote: I like listening to sick people and stuff. And going over and meeting their families and stuff. I can still do that, just not officially in a tab collar shirt (which pushes up my double chin and makes me look like a bullfrog, VERY attractive).
We're glad you're not visiting sick people looking like a bullfrog. Sounds scary! How is the Benedictine thing going?
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heardclarke
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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 01:45 am |
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Dear Annie,
I almost started down that same road--after teaching Godly Play in Sunday School for a couple of years, I felt a call to do more and be closer to God. I talked to my Episcopal pastor and he referred me to a female priest at another parish to discuss the idea further. He said personally he could not support it, as our parish did not accept women as priests, though other parishes and the bishop would.
While I was talking to her, we had a nice conversation, but I could tell that was not the way I was supposed to go. I was later invited to assist her at the altar at a eucharist and felt REALLY uncomfortable then. I didn't even think that the permanent diaconate would work for me at that point. Something (or Someone?) told me to keep looking elsewhere.:?
It seemed like I had been wandering around in circles for a long time when I found my current job at St. Pius X Catholic School in 2002. Although I didn't know anyone there, I immediately felt at home. For two years I considered what to do as I felt more and more that this new "family" was my church. Eventually I realized that the Lord had been calling to me all those years. It just took me a long time to figure out what he was saying. I was confirmed Catholic finally in 2005.
Thanks for reading this and for sharing your story.
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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 09:46 am |
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Credo Catholic wrote: Annie wrote: makes me look like a bullfrog, VERY attractive).
We're glad you're not visiting sick people looking like a bullfrog.
Is that a frog joke?
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Annie
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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 11:02 am |
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heardclarke wrote: Eventually I realized that the Lord had been calling to me all those years. It just took me a long time to figure out what he was saying.
Yeah, me too.
And yes, I make quite a frog! *ribbet* I can't eat flies though, they upset my tummy.
As for the Benedictine thing, next week I am going to St. Meinrad for the investiture to make me a novice oblate. I am so excited. It will be interesting what it feels like, whether I will feel at home or out of place yet. My Catholic experience so far has been one of being very at home.
I have never been to southern Indiana either so that will be new too. Though at least they are all doing daylight saving time now, ha ha.
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heardclarke
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Posted: Tue Aug 14th, 2007 11:20 am |
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My husband went to St. Meinrad last fall to discuss music and he brought back the most amazing pictures. It is so beautiful. The people are wonderful there too. Have a great time!
Lisa
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