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Posted: Fri May 4th, 2007 12:24 pm |
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Washington DC, May 3, 2007 / 12:23 pm (CNA).- The leadership of the Episcopalian Church of the United States is upset over the pending installation this weekend of a bishop to head a parallel conservative denomination.
The presiding bishop of the Episcopalian Church, Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, has demanded that Nigerian Archbishop Peter Akinola not install the new bishop to head the Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA).
Archbishop Akinola is scheduled to install Bishop Martyn Minns, 64, on May 5 as the head of CANA. However, in an attempt to downplay his presence, Archbishop Akinola is neither giving the main sermon nor appearing at any press conferences, reported The Washington Times.
CANA is considered to be an offshoot of the Nigerian church and a conservative alternative for Episcopalians who still want to remain in the worldwide Anglican Communion but not in the more liberal Episcopalian Church of the United States.
The Episcopalian Diocese of Virginia alone lost 11 parishes — about 9,000 people — to CANA last winter. Currently, CANA consists of about 30 to 35 churches.
Archbishop Akinola will be accompanied by four other Nigerian bishops for the installation. Bishop Minns was already consecrated as a bishop Aug. 20 in Abuja, Nigeria.
The installation will be at the Hylton Memorial Chapel in Woodbridge, Virginia. According to Bishop Minns, the nondenominational 3,500-seat chapel was selected as the venue for Saturday's ceremony so as not to antagonize the diocese, but the Episcopalian leadership remains riled.
"Such action [the installation] would violate the ancient customs of the church" in terms of the sacrosanct boundaries of individual bishops,” Bishop Jefferts Schori wrote in the letter to Archbishop Akinola. The latter does not have permission to minister within the geographical boundaries that are not his own, she noted.
Furthermore, wrote Bishop Jefferts Schori, "such action would not help the efforts of reconciliation that are taking place in the Episcopal Church and in the Anglican Communion as a whole. Such action would display to the world division and disunity that are not part of the mind of Christ, which we must strive to display to all."
Some Episcopal leaders say Bishop Minns' installation is the beginning of an effort by the Nigerian Church to replace the Episcopal Church with a conservative alternative.
The Nigerian bishops have announced that they will name more CANA bishops in September.
The above article is reposted with permission from the Catholic News Agency.
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Posted: Wed May 9th, 2007 01:14 am |
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Posted: Wed May 9th, 2007 04:44 am |
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Steven Barrett wrote: Crrrrrrrrraaaaaaccccccckkkkkk!
I am just curious how you would feel if someone wrote a response with a smiley face and hmorous comment on a board where there was a story about something difficult and negative going on in the Catholic Church. Like if we had a story about a priest abuse scandal or a liberal Catholic thing and some protestant responded saying ' uh-oh! trouble in paradise!
I mean, I know there are terrible problems in the episcopal church and I hope they lead to more members seeking communion with us and whatnot, but I also care about the state of their church and hope they figure out how to deal with the issues. I would agree with you tht they seem so far gone and in trouble and that it does serve as an example of what losing union with us has led to in regards to a lack of a solid teaching authority, but nonetheless I still want them to resolve things as best and orthodox as possible, even though I really sometimes hope that the more conservative members realize it is too far gone and come running to our open arms. I know a lot of solid Anglican people though, and care about their plight.
I know you to be a funny and sacrcastic guy, and that is my sense of humor sometimes as well, so I think you mean well, but I feel like your comment is glorying in their agony or making light of their obvious problems. I guess I do not think our board is supposed to be finding other denominations problems as being humorous because we are here for people seeking truth from those other denominations and why will they take us serious if we are laughing at their flaws rather than pointing them out with concern.
Anyway, please don't take this the wrong way. I will assume the best of things and not say that I understand your motives or intentions or that I am right about it. Just wanted to let you know how it looks to me. Maybe I am too sensitive or just misunderstand you. So I am not tying to attack you, but you are a striaghtforward guy, so I figured I would straightforward tell you how I felt about this comment, at risk of embarrassing myself for horribly missing the point or making a bigger deal of something than I need to.
I mean, I know you have admitted to having a good and somewhat warped sense of humor and I do appreciate this. I just wonder about this particular comment.
Brian
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Posted: Wed May 9th, 2007 04:59 pm |
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Brian, Mea culpa.
I wasn't trying to make light of the ECUSAs problems and I do wish all the best for the CANA churches and dioceses. My wise crack was directed mostly at the PB and all the other libs who ran the Episcopal Church into the ground with their liberal experimentation with scripture, morality, etc. and now they have the gall to wonder what's happening and why so many otherwise non-controversy seeking conservative Anglicans are looking for a new venue for a familiar faith under new leadership: Real Leadership, not the namby-pamby stuff that's been proffered as hierarchical leadership during the past thirty years.
At more than one time I gave our old parish a thought to rejoining, but when the gay stuff was shoved down everyone's throats, it was time to say, so long.
But, my sincere apologies.
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Posted: Thu May 10th, 2007 12:23 am |
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No prob, I just wanted to see if I could get some clarification. I came home from a good branch of Anglicans under an African Bishop (AMiA) I too want the more liberal branches to sort of starve out, and my prayer would be that the conservative Anglicans might stick together and eventually consider uniting with Rome. I can dream can't I. But the church I went to was very Catholic friendly which was refreshing from my evangelical background.
Part of me wants them to fall apart so the conservative ones have to consider joining us. I find it a little frustrating that they keep finding more ways to make it work, but still if they are goin to stay Anglican I would hope they could find support and truth as best as possible.
So while I may share your sentiments of frustration toward the liberal side of things, I did want to wonder if we should still be careful how we express that because for all we know there are people from that background who maybe read this forum. While I find much of their theological direction scary and sad, I would not want to insult someone who sincerely was trying to defend it or believe in it or maybe has not critically looked at it yet but was swept along the journey. This board is for all seeking truth so we should do well to respect even those who favor gay clergy and simply try to explain why we dislike the views.
My college chaplain was difficult for me to deal with because he was Christian but too "liberal" for me. But I do think he was a sincere and good person, though only God knows for sure. If someone like him were reading our posts I hope he would feel we were respecting his side even while finding it bad news.
Anyway, I was not that offended personally. Feel free to be yourself. I appreciate your candor and I know that you find yourself in a lot of "ecumenical" situations yourself, and I think you use humor to make the most of it and build bridges. I just wanted to see if you thought how your comment would be perceived if read by someone from a different side than ours.
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