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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 02:38 am |
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John McCain's recent sell-out of his gutsy reputation for standing up to the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have led me to wonder if he's learned anything from his party's notorious history when it comes to dealing with Catholics.
Recently McCain accepted the support of John Hagee, whose love of the old bloody shirt of "whore of Babylon" is well known and documented.
It's "rum, romanism n' rebellion" all over again, with no lessons learned and it makes one wonder who's whoring whom for votes and influence.
McCain's descended from standing up to the bullies of the evangelical far right to outright embracing one of its own Louis Farrakhans. Something to behold!
(Take a look at Bill Donahue's recent interview with Salon.com regarding Senator Straightalking's new methodology in coalition building. As usual, Donahue minces no words.)
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 02:52 am |
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Steven Barrett wrote: John McCain's recent sell-out of his gutsy reputation for standing up to the likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have led me to wonder if he's learned anything from his party's notorious history when it comes to dealing with Catholics.
Frankly, I would rather have a president who hates Catholics but accepts our moral positions than one who loves Catholics and supports an agenda that favors the murder of unborn children and the elderly, and the erosion of marriage and family life.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 03:23 am |
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 Yeah, but what else will he do to us besides hate us enough with his indifference to the respect we deserve as full fellow citizens? Unlike Bush, when it comes to abortion, McCain's dedication to our position isn't all that firm. McCain's got a lot of ground to catch up even when it comes to abortion.
What good does it do to have a presidential administration that'll scrap the social safety net out from under so many pregnant young women. All this talk about "personal accountability" matched with "fiscal conservatism" is a pure recipe for boosting Planned Parenthood's stock portfolio several times over. Even William F. Buckley dismissed this achilles heel of contemporary conservatism as "loose morals/tightfisted" thinking.
I hear where you're coming from, but when it comes to cozying up to the likes of John Hagee, or that other notable from Ohio, the rabble rousin' Rod Parsley, God help us to have more "friends" like John McCain.
If Obama could distance himself from Louis Farrakhan, what's holding McCain back from doing the same with John "whore of Babylon" Hagee?
It all comes down to McCain's inability to stop playing the Washington game, notwithstanding all his brave straight talk. Who's whorin' whom?
 We can both bet Bill Donahue knows! Have a great night, anyway!
(PS CHeck out the Catholic League's most recent postings. Real eye-rolling stuff from Hagee!)
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1398
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 04:10 am |
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Steven Barrett wrote: McCain's dedication to our position isn't all that firm. McCain's got a lot of ground to catch up even when it comes to abortion.
His pro-life position is a lot more firm than his Democrat opponents!
The question is not who we would want to vote for, it is who we have to vote for. At this point, there is (in my opinion) only one alternative. He is not my preferred candidate, but given the available choices, he is the only candidate.
I would rather a president who makes a half-hearted attempt to reduce abortions to one who would make no attempt at all. I would rather a president who is somewhat committed to a pro-family agenda than one who is committed to support gay marriage. I would rather a president who makes a token attempt to support family values than one who would make no attempt at all.
I cannot vote for Obama or Clinton. That doesn't leave me a lot of choice.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 03:15 pm |
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I have an eirie feeling that in this election we are voting for the anit Christ. So if no one is for me im for no one. I wouldn't vote.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 05:36 pm |
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Parodyonlife wrote: I have an eirie feeling that in this election we are voting for the anit Christ. So if no one is for me im for no one. I wouldn't vote.
See this thread for a message from Fr. Frank Pavone, head of Priests for Life, on the sinfulness of not voting just because neither candidate is perfect.
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 09:28 pm |
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Cajunrick, I hear you and agree with Fr. Pavone about our moral duties to vote. If we don't like the untidyness of freedom, will we ever get used to the supposed cleanliness of a dictatorship? Pyongyang's a real clean place from what I've seen and heard.
Unlike the ego-centric ward bosses masquerading as preachers in their temples of megachurchianity, the Catholic clergy, misrepresentations of the press notwithstanding, does not play ward boss, ward heeler or gauleiter and tell their flock how to vote, or worse, give them the "or else" line.
Our bishops deal with bigger fish who have more responsibility, don't use it wisely and the examples that the bishops set in their handling of these political indiscretions are then left for their parishoners to act upon.
Hardly the hallmarks of a "inquisitorial" institution.
"Hey, Rev. Hagee ... hear that? Our bishops are more democratic and play by the American rules of political conduct better than you megachurch bosses." (Oops, there goes another Nativist objection about our "foreign" nature.)
McCain's friend and colleague, Sen. K. Bailey Hutchison, (R-TX) could only provide a game assessment of the deteriorating situation by replying to a member of the fourth estate that Hagee is a minister with a large congregation. Alright, senator, we can get the drift from here. Talk about a Texas-sized two-step.
From Blaine to McCain. What next will the GOP (Guardians of Protestantism) give us to shake our heads over?
As for McCain being more of a "friend" to the prolife movement, even that's questionable. If he can't stand up to the Louis Farrakhan of the religious right--a subgroup he had the guts to stand up to eight years ago, what'll stop him from knifing the prolife movement if he gets in? Even though we really can't trust him now; why should we take a chance on him when the stakes are much higher?
I had a little fun on Bill Moyers' blog page last night and think you and other readers will find the accompanying video interesting. Frightening is more like it.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/
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Posted: Tue Mar 4th, 2008 11:16 pm |
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Its a sin to do something that is free will? How does it qualify as a sin? If i vote this election it should be a sin. (which i cant im 16)
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Parodyonlife wrote: Its a sin to do something that is free will? How does it qualify as a sin? If i vote this election it should be a sin. (which i cant im 16)
When you are able to vote, you'll find that you often have to choose among less than ideal candidates.
I've told the story before about the 1991 governor's election in Louisiana. The two candidates in the general election were a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican.
The Democrat is famous for saying (after a half dozen or so indictments and aquitals for public bribary and corruption in his previous three terms as governor) that the only way they would bring him down is to catch him in bed with a live boy or a dead girl.
The Republican was a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.
The Democrat, Edwin Edwards, actually distributed bumper stickers that read, "Vote for the Crook". The Republican, David Duke, was the founder of the National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP) and was and is an embarrassment to the people of Louisiana. I'm sorry to say he took 38% of the vote. Edwards is also an embarrassment, but at least his "crimes" were political in nature. Duke is not only a racist but also a thief and a swindler.
As a citizen, staying home is not an option. I am morally bound to vote for the person I believe is the best candidate. Who would you have voted for? I voted for the crook.
Turns out both of them were crooks, and today both of them are in federal prison.
I have never voted for McCain, and I never thought I would. But if the choice is between him and Obama or him and Clinton, and there is no viable third party candidate with a shot at winning, I will vote for McCain.
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Ya Rick I am in exactly your place- it just isn't in me not to vote- as an immigrant I do take that duty seriously ( and pray that I never get Jury duty!!). let's face it though totally nice guys don't make it in politics- there are just too many comprimises that they have to make along the way like it or not. All you can do is vote for the person who has best stood for what you stand for:?
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kimdyuma wrote: totally nice guys don't make it in politics
Well, since I've run twice and didn't get elected, I guess that makes me a "totally nice guy"!
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CajunRick wrote:
I cannot vote for Obama or Clinton. That doesn't leave me a lot of choice.
Ron Paul? I also hear Ralph Nadar is back in it!
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Posted: Wed Mar 5th, 2008 12:50 pm |
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Ali wrote:Ron Paul? I also hear Ralph Nadar is back in it!
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I voted for Ron Paul in my state's primary last month. I will be voting for McCain in the general. My concern is that Obama would get elected if I gave my vote to Ron Paul, who will obviously not be elected no matter how much we might wish for it, and that scares me enough to vote for McCain. John, you are young and idealistic (a good thing, mind), but the older you get, the more you'll realize just how hard it is to be so when it comes to politics. Unfortunately, this is going to be another election where we will have to vote for the lesser of two evils. God is still in charge of government and He has allowed us to participate in a small way. We can withhold our votes for conscience's sake, but how will we feel if we will have helped get Obama, the pseudo messiah, elected? McCain at least has lots of experience, and you never know how being president might affect him. It may be that he surprises us all in a good way. But Obama has already promised that he will advance gay rights and abortion on demand. Who knows what else he's capable of? He must be stopped! He scares the hooey out of me. 
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CajunRick wrote: kimdyuma wrote: totally nice guys don't make it in politics
Well, since I've run twice and didn't get elected, I guess that makes me a "totally nice guy"!
You are a totally nice guy, Rick, even though you sic yer gator on us when we's bad. 
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A friend described Obama as having the "Kool-Aid " people coming out- after we read that some womean had fainted at one of his rallies-
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kimdyuma wrote: A friend described Obama as having the "Kool-Aid " people coming out- after we read that some womean had fainted at one of his rallies-
Yes, and a lot of people are drinking it! Check out this messiah-ish video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU
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Is that real or a spoof?
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kimdyuma wrote: Is that real or a spoof?
Totally real. 
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Kim, if Ron Paul ever got elected, I'd prob. have to rely on rum again to calm my nerves if he was ever to get away with killing Social Security. I live in Happy Valley, aka Hampshire County, of which Nuthampton, excuse me, Northampton, aka "Lesbianville, USA" and former hometown of Jonathan Edwards. In fact, I live smack between Amherst and Nuthampton. If I can manage this, and believe me, it's what you fear, but only in a very heavily concetrated form, we'll manage with Obama.
Congess, which is by nature, a lot more culturallyy and conditionally conservative than any party ideology might reveal, isn't going to let this guy run amok any more than it did Bill Clinton in his early years. (And, inspite of Monica, Clinton wasn't anywhere nearly as radical as Obama and he governed more out of middle and left the nation with a nice kitty. He also through his defense of whatever social programs he could save from Gingrich and Co. actually saved more babies from abortions than he got credit for. Even conservative writers have acknowledged this (but ever so grudgingly because full truths don't always sell papers, etc.) Even Democratic congressmen aren't so off the wall.
What still scares the hell out me more is McCain's (and even W's) cozyness with the Louis Farrakhan(s) of the Religious Right, John Hagee and Rod Parsley. These guys don't just support Israel's right to defend herself. They want Israel to have the right to bully, dominate and oppress the entire Middle East all because of a misreading of Scripture. (This is one reason why Protestantism doesn't just sit well with me, it scares the hell out of me because of so many Protestants' (especially the right wingnuts) proclivity to rely upon the most militaristic verses from the OT and proof-text them in ways that would even scare the day and night lights out of any sensible battle planner in the Pentagon.
Hagee goes so far as to give jingoism a blacker eye than it already has and deserves. Let's defend ourselves; let's help our friends and stand up for what's right. But let's not manufacture wars out of lies like the present bunch did to rid us of Saddam while they conveniently overlooked the other villains. It was personal. And so it is with Hagee and his buddy Parsley.
And, so it is with me when it comes to the pastor's love of all that old "whore of Babylon" and "apostate church" nonsense. These guys wrap themselves in the flag, and thus imply that their predominate white bread, and all American "God fearing" views based on the Bible (alone) are what true Americans should follow. Maybe I'm going overboard here with my rhetoric, and I'm wont to do that too often. But something about this guy and his influence should stiffen our backs, especially if McCain gets in. Take a look at the video on Bill Moyers' blogsite about CUFI and you'll see some familiar faces who couldn't wait to get us into this Iraq quagmire. Granted, maybe all of them didn't know we were being hoodwinked by Bush, Cheney and Co. who pushed us into a personal war of revenge; but we're there and if McCain gets in, we'll be there for a long, long time to come. And, no, it's not like our occupation of Germany. The Germans who survived the war and wanted to rebuild their nation (and keep the Russians out) were far more practical than the fruitcakes we're dealing with in Iraq. Remember, we killed off the former "religious" extremists; the Nazis.
But what have we done in Iraq? We let the people who hate us keep their guns and what did that accomplish? Perpetual war against the occupiers, and we'll always be the occupiers but not in the same way to most Iraqis as we were to a much more beaten foe. I could go on forever cutting through the obvious differences here; cultural and religious being the first. But I'm sure you know why I'm so worried about McCain and his new buddies in a movement he once had scorn for. He's prostituted himself out to the most convenient political power bidders he can find, be they religious ideologues or job killing money changers on Wall Street.
Do you think Hagee gives a rip about domestic issues? (Or worse yet, Ron Paul?) If you needed to go on disability as I did, their 19th century attitudes or pre-New Deal mindsets, to be more precise, should scare the devil out of anybody. We are our brothers and sisters keepers and as Catholics we have an obligation, especially given our historical contributions to shaping this nation's social safety net to fight like hell to keep it alive and also avoid political opportunists who'll undermine both domestic security as well as prevent us from stumbling into useless and immoral wars created out of pure clothe to suit a powerful clique's secret agenda.
Obama's nonsense is bothersome, but we have bigger fish to keep our eyes on. We can (even amusingly) shrug off the foibles of the gay rights crowds; but we can't ignore the bigger and far scarier implications of what can happen to this nation's overall defences and economic stability.
Remember, my (real) hometown is Amherst, which author Tracy Kidder said has it's own "foreign policy," and considers itself "nuclear free." I'm still looking for that invisible hippie version of Reagan's Star Wars space shield like I am for that "invisible church" evangelicals love to speak lovingly about.
(Hmmmm, Maybe the plans for this hippie anti-nuke shield are locked away in Obama's campaign bus.)
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Kim,
It sure looks as if Obama's favorite speechwriter, my "governor," cough, choke, harrumpffff, and whatever else, has decided to buy a case of EXREEEEME KOOL AID by pushing legislation protecting the rights of "transgendered" people. (i.e., the ones who look in the mirror and don't know what gender their parents gave them; or worse, want to change it.)
This follows on the heels (how appropriately enough, but no pun intended) of his having to crap out on a wild pie-eyed three-resort casino plan that'd supposedly bring in 30,000 jobs to the Commonwealth. (He had to leave the table when the House Speaker and dealer told him he crapped out because it wasn't "credible." In those words.
Heck, that wasn't enough for ol' Deval. Like any guy with a gambling problem, he sidles up to table again, only to waste more political capitol on a lose/lose bet all around. Oh, he'll prob. win this one with one sly card, but by all rights, he should be completey losing his shirt because despite MA's "liberal" reputation outside the state, by and large the State leg happens to be more Tip O'Neil liberal, lunch bucket and jobs liberal; not given kindly to experiments in perversion, especially if such experiments would mean that the worst among us will have all the legal pr otection in the world to "do their things."
Although I was on the humorous side of this issue before while describing my home turf, this stuff does bother m e b ecause of its wastefulness in distracting our elected and other officials from doing more to help the really needy; not the sexually sick or trendier than thou freaks that are protected by equally trendier than thou who happen to also be more arrogant than thou or anyone we could imagine in our worst night and day-mares.
Schools need funds, potholes are growing wider and the state's health care system started under Mitt the Mindless works just wonders and what does our Kool Aid guv and speechwriter for Obama do, blow his political capitol on perverts.
What a wonderful world, aint it!
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Steven, I spent probably close to an hour trying to come up with a good response for you. But after reading it, I decided to delete it. This board is not here for us to rant and rave about politics. So I'm not going to. This is a depressing year for politics, so we should all just vote as we are led by the Holy Spirit through prayer. That's the best we can do. God help our nation.
Sorry if you were hoping for more. I really wanted to say a lot, but I think it would be best if I don't.
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Quite alright Kim. I understand where you're coming from. It's just that I come from the James Carville style of expressing oneself when it comes to politics. (That'll surely get Cajunrick's attention!) I just happen to be a bit too playfully irreverent at times. And, to be honest, if you're as interested in politics as I am and live in Happy Valley of western Massachusetts, a sense of humor is a must. Otherwise I'd have really gone over a deep edge. In this neck of the woods, moral values, judgmental attitudes towards sin (oh, that's a real bad "S word" up here, you can really step into it saying "sin.") and I think you get where I'm coming from and might go if I just don't shut up and go hit the sack before my eyes are left dangling out of their sockets, kept in my head only by nerves, ala a bad "terminator" scene.
But no, I haven't read Hunter Thompson in years, though.
Take cheer, thou, it will be an interesting year!
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Posted: Thu Mar 6th, 2008 12:58 pm |
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Ehhh... my first year to vote in a presidential election and instead of exciting me: it depresses me.
Frankly, I think my AP Government class last year could do a better job of running this country than any of the candidates.
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