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left coast mystic
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 05:20 pm |
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The pastor of the Catholic church we've attended a couple of times just retired and a new priest came last week. In the bulletin he's called the "Administrator" rather than the pastor. Does this mean that he's like an interim pastor in protestant denominations? He's in the Salesian order and was a parochial vicar (what's that?) in another church in our archdiocese before being transferred.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 06:13 pm |
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left coast mystic wrote: The pastor of the Catholic church we've attended a couple of times just retired and a new priest came last week. In the bulletin he's called the "Administrator" rather than the pastor. Does this mean that he's like an interim pastor in protestant denominations? He's in the Salesian order and was a parochial vicar (what's that?) in another church in our archdiocese before being transferred.
Marcee
An "administrator" is not given the full authority of a pastor. Instead, he guides the parish on behalf of the bishop who assumes the duties of pastor. For example, an administrator may not make construction decisions, change mass times, etc., without consulting with the bishop.
Administrators are usually either temporary appointees, or priests who are not incardinated into the diocese, or priests who do not have enough tenure with the diocesan personnel structure to qualify as a pastor.
In this case, as a Salesian, he might be on temporary assignment to the diocese and therefore not qualified to be the pastor.
A parochial vicar is a similar position. He handles the day to day operation of a parish of which the bishop is the nominal head. He might also be assigned to a parish which technically has a pastor shared with another parish.
Depending on the circumstances he may actually have full authority granted to him by the bishop, but titles such as administrator and parochial vicar meet canonical and legal requirements.
For example, in my diocese no priest may become a pastor until he has been in the diocese for five years. A priest who came into our diocese from New Jersey was named "administrator" of a parish until he reached the five year mark, at which time he was named pastor. Another priest, Fr. Oscar Solis, was "parochial vicar" of our co-cathedral until he was named an auxilliary bishop of Los Angeles. The parochial vicar of our cathedral at the time, Msgr. Joseph Latino, is now the bishop of Jackson, MS.
Last edited on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 06:13 pm by CajunRick
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 01:34 am |
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So there's no way of telling from the title whether this priest is likely going to be around for a long time, or might be replaced relatively soon by someone "permanent"?
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 02:50 am |
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left coast mystic wrote: So there's no way of telling from the title whether this priest is likely going to be around for a long time, or might be replaced relatively soon by someone "permanent"?
No. And even if it could be determined, the bishop would not be bound by that decision. My brother's pastor was moved after only 9 months, to a position within the diocese (vocations director). My own pastor is in the seventh year of his six year appointment.
As an administrator, he has additional oversight compared to a pastor, but that doesn't necessarily mean anyone is actually watching any closer. It depends on what authority the bishop has granted him.
The role of the pastor, administrator, parochial vicar, and pastoral council are governed by this section of the Code of Canon Law. It also explains the role of the diocesan bishop or administrator in the naming of pastors, parish administators, and parochial vicars.
I do notice that the Code specifies that a parish administrator has the same authority as a pastor unless the bishop has specified otherwise, but it has been my experience that an administrator reports more frequently to the bishop, and refrains from making major changes in the parish without the bishop's consent. It's possible that that practice may exist only in my own diocese, however.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 12:39 am |
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Thanks, Rick. You're such a blessing to so many in your service here!
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 02:30 am |
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As of Aug. 1 nuns will be Pastoral Administrators at two of the parishes in our diocese. A letter from the bishop says the nuns will be in charge of financial matters, community leadership and spiritual care. Retired priests, called Sacramental Ministers, will come on Sundays to preside over the Eucharist. I don't know who will hear confessions. This has come about because of a lack of priests.
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