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m31195 Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 04:13 am |
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Can someone explain #676 of the CCC
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 08:57 am |
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| God's peace, and welcome. I'll try: What the CCC is stating is an expansion of I John 2: 18 ff., which points out that antichrists are already in the world. Sinful human beings cannot bring in the Kingdom! The messianic hope for which Catholics wait is not a product of politics, science, rationalism, wishful thinking, or free love. It can only occur when the true Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ, returns to judge the world and bring down the curtain on history. The Church is especially critical of, and utterly rejects, "secular messianisms" such as naziism and communism. Blessings, ~Br_Carlo~ Last edited on Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 08:59 am by Br_Carlo
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 12:48 pm |
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| Thanks! What is your take on the term "millenarianism" as used in the section?
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Posted: Sun Sep 23rd, 2007 01:22 pm |
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m31195 wrote: Thanks! What is your take on the term "millenarianism" as used in the section?
Catholics United for the Faith has a Faith Fact which explains the Catholic take on millenarianism. To quote part of that document:
There are three basic interpretations regarding Revelation 20 and “the millennium.” The Church has traditionally taught one commonly known as “amillennialism,” which means that the reign of God began with Christ’s death and resurrection and the “thousand years” is a figurative number to describe the reign of His Church (2 Pt. 3:8-10; Catechism of the Catholic Church, nos. 664, 668-682).
In the past two centuries, two other interpretations have become popular among Protestants. One is called “postmillennialism,” which was big in the 19th century. It teaches that the world is being Christianized over time and that Christ’s return will follow a long period of peace on the earth called “the millennium.” The second is “premillennialism,” which is the most popular among Protestants of this century and is also called “millenarianism” and “chiliasm.” Premillennialists believe that Christ is going to establish a literal reign of 1,000 years on earth between the Second Coming and the Last Judgment. Properly understood, the “rapture” refers to Christ’s gathering His followers at the end of time. Catholics believe that this event will happen at the general resurrection and Last Judgment, but they do not refer to the event as “the rapture.”
Check the document for a full discussion of these issues.
____________________ Understanding is the reward of faith. Therefore seek not to understand that you may believe, but believe that you may understand. - Augustine
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