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 Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2007 02:32 am

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I have interest in learning about the byzantine catholic rite. I visited a church today. I read that they follow a stricter lenten fast much like the orthodox xhurch does. It said that those who receive communion are expected to keep this fast unless a priest tells them they do not have to.

I also understand that any catholic can receive th esacrament at any catholic church. But what if it was during lent and I was visiting and not keeping their laws of fast? Could I receive communion even though they consider it a requirement to keep the fast?

Actually, it just says that the eparchy are to keep this fast, but the others I think need to fast on wednesdays and fridays, but my question is, can i receive communion at a byzantine catholic church if I am not following what their leadership requires?


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 Posted: Tue Feb 20th, 2007 11:32 am

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brian wrote: Actually, it just says that the eparchy are to keep this fast, but the others I think need to fast on wednesdays and fridays, but my question is, can i receive communion at a byzantine catholic church if I am not following what their leadership requires?

I think you are bound by the laws of Fast and Abstinence of the Latin Church, so you would be permitted to receive the sacraments even though you do not follow their fast.  However, I would check with the priest of the Byzantine Church to make sure.

Typically, a member of a certain Church is bound by the rules of that Church, not the one he is attending.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2007 07:07 pm

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You should follow the fast of your Church.  You can receive communion of course.  Tilt your head back, don't extend your tongue, and don't respond with an Amen like you would in your Church.  Other than that you should be fine.

Also, you may receive confession if you so desire (It is a different experience which you might enjoy).

Visit your local Byzantine Catholic Church often because you are ALWAYS welcomed their! :D

Happy Pascha if I don't come back until then!

Christ is Risen!  Indeed He Is Risen!  Christos Voskrese!


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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:28 am

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Thank you so much for the reply. I will visit my Byzantine parsih soon and possibly often. One thing that makes me wonder if I could ever embrace it any more than this is the fact that they do not seem to offer daily mass, which is something I like about the Latin Rite. Do they offer communion more than once a week in any sort of pre-sanctified liturgy? Also I believe where I am near has a thursday evening mass or communion service.

Now I also live near a Ukrainian Catholic Church which is Eastern as well. But they actually do offer daily mass. Why is there the difference between the Byzantine and the Ukrainian within this matter?


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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:59 am

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brian wrote: Thank you so much for the reply. I will visit my Byzantine parsih soon and possibly often. One thing that makes me wonder if I could ever embrace it any more than this is the fact that they do not seem to offer daily mass, which is something I like about the Latin Rite. Do they offer communion more than once a week in any sort of pre-sanctified liturgy? Also I believe where I am near has a thursday evening mass or communion service.

You would have to check with the office of that parish.  Many smaller churches of any Rite do not offer daily mass, or only offer it on certain days.  Byzantine priests in particular have a long vesting ritual which makes daily mass difficult.
Now I also live near a Ukrainian Catholic Church which is Eastern as well. But they actually do offer daily mass. Why is there the difference between the Byzantine and the Ukrainian within this matter?

Each church parish is different, regardless of Rite.  Many Latin churches do not offer daily mass in areas where there is not a large Catholic population.  If a priest says mass at three different churches, he may only be able to offer daily mass once a week at each.  If he has to travel 100 miles each way to say mass, maybe he can only get there on Sundays.  In extremely rural areas, there may not even be mass on a weekly basis.  The priest may be part-time, also working as a hospital chaplain or a teacher, or he may be "bi-ritual" with faculties to say mass under more than one Rite.

There are lots of reasons.  The tradition of daily mass never developed in the Eastern Churches, so most of them will not have a daily Divine Liturgy.  On the other hand, they're more likely to have Vespers services or other prayer services at night.  In the west, devotion centers around the mass; in the east, the liturgical tradition is richer and broader, and there is more likely to be a variety of liturgical services other than the Divine Liturgy.

Maybe our Byzantine friend Ray can shed more light on the subject.



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