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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:21 am |
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I was listening to part of a Catholic radio program tonight and they were talking about angels.
Now, I know that God has assigned each one of us a guardian angel. The speaker was talking about how there are billions of guardian angels because God assigns one to each person on earth. So, I starting wondering, what happens to our guardian angels after we leave the earth? Do they stay with us in heaven? Do they join a different angel group? Do they get "reassigned" to another person on earth? 
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:29 am |
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They might still be busy with us if we're in Purgatory.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:36 am |
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So true! 
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:39 am |
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I found this on newadvent.org:
St. Thomas teaches us (Summa Theologica I:113:4) that only the lowest orders of angels are sent to men, and consequently that they alone are our guardians, though Scotus and Durandus would rather say that any of the members of the angelic host may be sent to execute the Divine commands. Not only the baptized, but every soul that cometh into the world receives a guardian spirit; St. Basil, however (Homily on Psalm 43), and possibly St. Chrysostom (Homily 3 on Colossians) would hold that only Christians were so privileged. Our guardian angels can act upon our senses (I:111:4) and upon our imaginations (I:111:3) -- not, however, upon our wills, except "per modum suadentis", viz. by working on our intellect, and thus upon our will, through the senses and the imagination. (I:106:2; and I:111:2). Finally, they are not separated from us after death, but remain with us in heaven, not, however, to help us attain salvation, but "ad aliquam illustrationem" (I:108:7, ad 3am).
What does "ad aliquam illustrationem" mean?
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:46 am |
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"to enlighten us by a large extent", literally, as best as I can udnerstand it.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:55 am |
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I hope he's right that we will not be separated. I hate being separated from persons who have become very important to me. 
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 03:06 am |
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Didi wrote: Do they get "reassigned" to another person on earth?
That's what I'd like to think, although to my knowledge the Church has never actually said what happens to them.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 06:18 pm |
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| This is mind boggling. Were all these angels created at the beginning of creation? God knew exactly how many to create for the duration of the world?
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 06:26 pm |
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This is mind boggling. Were all these angels created at the beginning of creation? God knew exactly how many to create for the duration of the world?
God is not constrained by time - He exists outside of it. So yeah, He knew exactly how many. There is nothing to see which He does not see - past, present, or future.
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Posted: Sun Mar 9th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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Credo Catholic wrote: This is mind boggling.
There are things we cannot and will not every understand. That's why they're called "mysteries".
It is impossible to comprehend the incomprehensible.
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