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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 12:21 pm |
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Can someone suggest a good book(s) that discusses the most famous church fathers, offers some biographical information, and then proceeds to offer their homilies and commentary on various sections of scripture? I know there is a large compilation available through Christian Book Distributors - but it is very expensive and more encyclopedic than I am looking for.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 05:40 pm |
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Hi Gillert,
My own book doesn't have biographical info., but it collects passages that support Catholic positions. Here are some books you might want to peruse at amazon:
Aquilina, Mike, The Fathers of the Church, Huntington, Indiana: Our Sunday Visitor, revised edition, 2006.
The Fathers of the Church, Expanded Edition by Mike Aquilina (Paperback - Oct 2, 2006)
Buy new: $13.95 $11.16
29 Used & new from $6.95
Bennett, Rod, Four Witnesses: The Early Church in Her Own Words, San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2002. [Clement, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, and Irenaeus]
Four Witnesses: The Early Church in Her Own Words by Rod Bennett (Paperback - Mar 2002)
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The Church Fathers: From Clement of Rome to Augustine by Pope Benedict XVI (Hardcover - Oct 30, 2008)
Buy new: $14.95 $10.17
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 05:51 pm |
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Thanks Dave. When you say "collects passages that support Catholic positions" - what does that mean?
When a book says church history from Clement of Rome to whomever - without dates and chronology I am lost. I just want to present to a small group what the church fathers believed and taught re: particular church doctrines and more importantly particular portions of Scripture.
I just want to be certain I select the right book. Thanks again for the assistance.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 06:06 pm |
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FYI, you might be interested in the Pope's book on the subject. It's called The Fathers and is available through Our Sunday Visitor. It gives biographical info on 26 of the Church Fathers along with commentary on their teachings. It also has an accompanying study guide.
God bless,
NOTE: Edited to fix link.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 07:22 pm |
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Hi Gillert,
Thanks Dave. When you say "collects passages that support Catholic positions" - what does that mean?
I collect passages from the Fathers that illustrate their acceptance of positions that Catholics hold, but Protestants do not, per the subtitle: "patristic evidences for Catholicism." You can get the book for as low as $3.00 as a PDF document. Paperback is $16.95. I've been known to not infrequently give e-books away for free (Word or PDF) if someone here really seems to need one and will benefit from it.
When a book says church history from Clement of Rome to whomever - without dates and chronology I am lost. I just want to present to a small group what the church fathers believed and taught re: particular church doctrines and more importantly particular portions of Scripture.
I just want to be certain I select the right book. Thanks again for the assistance.
Actually (I didn't think of this before), you might do better with an overview such as the following:
EARLY CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES. by J. N. D. Kelly (Hardcover - 1960)
8 Used & new from $7.95
[see also other versions / revisions available at amazon]
Kelly's book is a standard scholarly work, written by an Anglican, who is, by and large, an objective historian. I often cite him in my apologetics. The big advantage there is that if you are talking to a Protestant audience, you want to cite Protestant scholars as much as possible, so as to prevent any accusation of bias of Catholic scholars (which is a time-honored tactic of those trying to avoid Catholic conclusions).
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 09:26 pm |
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Thanks Mary. The link didn't work - is the name purely "The Fathers"? Do you have an ISBN #?
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 10:15 pm |
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| Try http://www.osv.com or type in Our Sunday Visitor into google. I think the brackets around the URL were the problem. Yes, the title is just The Fathers and the isbn # is 9781592764402
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 01:50 am |
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Ave_Girl wrote: Try http://www.osv.com or type in Our Sunday Visitor into google. I think the brackets around the URL were the problem. Yes, the title is just The Fathers and the isbn # is 9781592764402
The forum will automatically translate URL's into links, but it MUST have a space before and after. Anything from the "http" to the next space is put into the link, so if you add a comma, period, parenthesis, etc., it will invalidate the link.
I fixed the first link so anyone else will be able to use it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 02:18 pm |
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 05:26 pm |
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Dave Armstrong wrote:
EARLY CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES. by J. N. D. Kelly (Hardcover - 1960)
8 Used & new from $7.95
Kelly's book is a standard scholarly work, written by an Anglican, who is, by and large, an objective historian. I often cite him in my apologetics. The big advantage there is that if you are talking to a Protestant audience, you want to cite Protestant scholars as much as possible, so as to prevent any accusation of bias of Catholic scholars (which is a time-honored tactic of those trying to avoid Catholic conclusions).
Dave, I think you are right about this. It seems to me that I've read where even James White quotes J.N.D. Kelly to make a point. And it's surprising to me how popular C.S. Lewis is among Evangelical Protestants, yet he was Anglican and believed in confession, in addition to other very Catholic ideas. Yet, not even those in the Reformed camp would consider Lewis not to be a Christian. 
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Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 05:57 pm |
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Yep. I have cited Kelly over against White, and cited White to show that he respects what Kelly says and uses him, himself.
That's whatcha call a "slam dunk" in apologetics circles . . .  And if anyone deserves to be slam dunked, it is James White.
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