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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 12:43 am |
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Fellowship of Catholic Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses
A Catholic Critique of Jehovah's Witnesses (Knights of Columbus: 1963)
Apologetic Podcasts and Conversion Story Podcasts (Catholic Ex-JWs)
Jehovah's Witnesses: A Catholic Response (Catholics United for the Faith)
Answering Jehovah's Witnesses (book by Jason Evert)
The Catholic Answer to the Jehovah's Witnesses: A Challenge Accepted (book by Louise D'Angelo)
Jehovah's Witnesses: "The Apocalyptic Arians": A Biblical and Historical Critique (+ Part Two) (Dave Armstrong)
Dialogue with a Jehovah's Witness on the Deity of Christ and Trinitarianism: Direct Statements of Jesus' Equality With God the Father: Jesus Own Words (+ Part Two) (Dave Armstrong)
Jesus is God: Biblical Proofs (Dave Armstrong)
The Holy Trinity: Biblical Proofs (Dave Armstrong)
Radio Talk on Jehovah's Witnesses From My Protestant Days (1989) (Dave Armstrong)
Jehovah's Witness to Catholic conversion stories: written and audio (scroll down to alphabetical "Jehovah's Witness" category on the left)
Collection of Conversion Stories of Ex-JWs (Fellowship of Catholic Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses)
Is Your Hope Bible-Based? Questions and Reflections For Jehovah's Witnesses (Dave Brown)
Jehovah's Witnesses--Do They Teach What the Bible Really Teaches? A Critical Evaluation of the Watchtower's Book "What Does the Bible Really Teach?" (Dave Brown)
Hiding the Divine Name (Dave Brown)
No Heavenly Hope for the Old Testament Saints? (Dave Brown)
Is Jesus Yahweh? (Dave Brown)
1914: True Prophecy or False Prophecy? (Dave Brown)
"And the Word Was God" (Jeffery Schwehm)
Welcome to the Universal (Catholic) Family of God (conversion story by Jeffery Schwehm)
How to Become a Jehovah's Witness (Kenneth Guindon: Envoy)
The God or a god? (Mark Brumley; This Rock)
How Many True Gods Are There, Anyway? (Mark Brumley; This Rock)
The Witnesses: Masters of Misquotation (Mark Brumley; This Rock)
You Can't Be Right: A Jehovah's Witness Confronts the Truth (Victor R. Claveau; This Rock)
Shunned by Kingdom Hall (Bradley R. Lewis; This Rock)
History of the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
Are They Awake on the Watchtower? (This Rock)
Distinctive Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
The God of the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
Strategies of the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
Stumpers For the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
More Stumpers For the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
Who Are the Jehovah's Witnesses? (Canon Francis J. Ripley: This Rock)
What Jehovah's Witnesses Believe (Canon Francis J. Ripley: This Rock)
Christ's Divinity Proved by the JW Bible (Joel S. Peters; This Rock)
Pastor Russell (Cathleen A. Koenig; This Rock)
"Judge" Rutherford (Cathleen A. Koenig; This Rock)
Talking to Jehovah's Witnesses (Jason Evert; This Rock)
Five Don'ts For Dealing With Jehovah's Witnesses (Joel S. Peters; This Rock)
Does the Watch Tower Society Speak For God? (Joel S. Peters; This Rock)
The Watchtower's Flickering Light (Joel S. Peters; This Rock)
Cross or Torture Stake? (Clayton F. Bower, Jr.; This Rock)
JWs and Blood Transfusions (This Rock)
History and Techniques of the Jehovah's Witnesses (This Rock)
An Abomination to the Lord: How the Watchtower Relied on a Spiritist’s Bible Translation (Fr. Mitch Pacwa: This Rock)
Talking to Jehovah's Witnesses: Fictional Dialogue Between a Catholic and JW (Dean Mischewski)
Incredible Creed of the Jehovah's Witnesses (Rev. Dr. Leslie Rumble)
What Do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe? (Fr. William Saunders)
Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower (David Wesley)
Additional (Wholly or Partially) Non-Catholic Helpful Resources
Helpful Research Links
Were the Early Christians Jehovah's Witnesses? (+ Part Two) (Robert U. Finnerty)
The Watchtower and the Ante-Nicene Church Fathers (Michael J. Partyka)
Nicene Christology and an Introduction to the Trinitarian Theology of the Ante-Nicene Fathers (Matt Paulson)
Yes! You Should Believe in the Trinity (Witness, Inc.)
Jehovah's Witnesses Answered Verse by Verse (online book by David A. Reed)
Jehovah's Witnesses Answered Subject by Subject (online book by David A. Reed)
A Critical Guide to Watchtower Publications (online book by David A. Reed)
"Proclaimers" Answered Page by Page (David A. Reed)
Bible Answers For Jehovah's Witnesses (David A. Reed)
Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum.com
Protestant Website and Organizational Outreaches to Jehovah's Witnesses
Witness, Inc.
Comments From the Friends (David A. Reed)
AnswerJW.com (David A. Reed)
Last edited on Wed Jul 16th, 2008 04:34 pm by Dave Armstrong
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 01:36 am |
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Great list, Dave!
You might want to add this one:
Apologetic Podcasts and Conversion Story Podcasts:
http://catholicxjw.blogspot.com
The latest one is my conversion story ;-).
Pax,
Ruth
____________________ When you bend down to help someone up, that is the best exercise for your heart. -- Fr. Noe, 2007
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Dave Armstrong Network Apologist

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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 04:32 pm |
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Steven Barrett Member

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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 05:03 am |
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Great List Dave,
They're swarming like bees all over UMass/Amherst where a lot of them are coming to use the Mullins Convocation Ctr (basketball/hockey arena) every weekend this summer as they have been for the past 9 years.
These guys must be preaching some kind of wealth, if not just health "gospel" because I've never seen so many brand spankin' new SUVs at any home UM game. A lot of them come up from NY. All dressed to the nines on the "weekend best" driving the best gas guzzlers and/or foreign specials. Unbelievable.
The only thing they don't have i$ a guy named Crefalo Dollar to finish off the image. 
____________________ James Michael Curley to a young Thomas “Tip” O’Neill -- “Son, it’s nice to be important, but it’s more important to be nice.”
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 05:19 pm |
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The JW-SUV connection. Never noticed that one! 
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 06:16 pm |
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Dave:
One of the first things I did when I left the Witnesses was buy a dinky two door sports car. Hubby and I each had one, mine was white, his was red. We loved those cars ;-)
Minivans, large vans, station wagons -- we had 'em all during the JW years.
Two door vehicles were from the debil (not really -- but they were greatly discouraged).
Hubby and I just recently bought a couple of four door sedans, though. Have to have something to use to transport the grandchildren.
But driving vans and wearing high heels and pantyhose while walking on dirt roads in August or sitting in the sun in large stadiums -- those memories I would just as soon forget!!
Those were the days... NOT!
Pax,
Ruth
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 07:51 pm |
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All because of the door-to-door work? We have a van simply because we have four kids. 
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 08:14 pm |
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Yup, mostly because of the door-to-door work.
Witnesses are not encouraged to have large families. The end is acomin', you know!! In the 1930s, Watchtower literature advised people to wait to have children until after Armageddon. I'm glad my parents didn't follow that advice.
But, yeah, whenever my Dad got a vehicle, it was always with a view to being able to cram in as many people as possible to go invade neighborhoods with the Watchtower. My husband and I just continued the tradition.

On a more serious note, you might ask a Witness sometime why they accept the command given to Noah regarding not eating the blood of animals (due to its antiquity) but ignore the command given to ADAM AND EVE to "be fruitful and multiply". Witnesses who attend the Gilead Missionary School to be Witness missionaries are mostly couples. They only accept couples who have been married for at least two years with no children. Then, if the couple later has children, their status changes and they are not missionaries any longer.
So obviously the use of artifical contraceptives is at least passively encouraged.
Witnesses stand firm against abortion in their teaching, but most of them have absolutely no idea that oral contraceptives can act in an abortifactant manner. I certainly didn't understand that, and I read every dot and tittle that they wrote up until about 1995.
Making up your own rules is always full of traps...
Pax,
Ruth
____________________ When you bend down to help someone up, that is the best exercise for your heart. -- Fr. Noe, 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 03:17 am |
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Ruth:
When I left the World Headquarters of JWs in order to get married, I requested information on different forms of birth control. I got a packet from I believe it was the Service Dept. with all kinds of information about different types of birth control.
There is a poster over at our Ex-JW threaded discussion board that gives some interesting information on the JWs and their approval of birth control as well. Here is the link:
http://catholicxjw.proboards55.com/index.cgi?board=prolifeagenda&action=display&thread=251&page=1
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 08:15 pm |
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Hi All:
I know that at times when people are dialoging with JWs that it helps to have some photocopies of older Watchtower literature. If you are in need of some older Watchtower literature, I now have access to a fairly extensive library and I am willing to have scans made and emailed to you. To access this service, please visit the following link:
http://www.catholicxjw.com/watchtowerliterature.html
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 08:19 pm |
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If anyone is interested I have a collection of 6 audio CDs with all of the presentations give at The Welcome Home! Catholic Conference. You can obtain this at the following link:
http://www.catholicxjw.com/donations.html
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Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 02:05 am |
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One of the most unusual assignments I was (almost) given was an idea floated by a (now deceased) former competitor and good friend (later editor) who thought it'd be fun to accompany a JW as he or she "made the rounds" and to find out what it's like to get doors slammed in their face.
I told her it reminded me of my mother story of when she was growing up in Holyoke, MA where so many Irish lived in the tenements ("flats") and nobody, absolutely nobody left their main doors unopened during the hot days. (Good old days, right. Trust, remember that?). And the front door to the apartment unit wasn't locked up like so many today are, even for rat and fire traps.
She told me you ALWAYS knew when the JW's came around."Bam, bam, bam... went the doors." What were these people expecting: in that part of Holyoke, it was almost entirely pure Catholic. And none of the other few Protestants, Jews or Orthodox were in the least interested, either.
As another Catholic (albeit Gallic, not Gaelic variety) from MA, but now making a hefty living in the Crescent City would put it "BAM!" 
____________________ James Michael Curley to a young Thomas “Tip” O’Neill -- “Son, it’s nice to be important, but it’s more important to be nice.”
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