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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 07:07 pm |
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There's nothing like a little suffering to make one take stock, repent, confess, apologize, and resolve to do better.
This post is intended primarily for those forum members (and lurkers) who have been here for a while as regular participants or readers. I want to apologize for the pride, insensitivity, and lack of gentleness in some of my posts, particularly earlier ones. My mother would say it's always been easy for me to tell others what to do but not so easy for me to see my own faults.
Through a bit of suffering I am becoming more keenly aware of my faults and simultaneously realizing, in a delightful way, how well the rest of you are reflecting the beauty of our Lord.
Forgive me for times I have caused offense or failed to encourage a burdened heart. I ask for your prayers as I submit to the Lord's "lesson plans" for me. Pray that I may grow in virtue, particularly in charity and mercy.
In obedience to Christ,
Becky
Last edited on Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:28 pm by Intercessor
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:08 pm |
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Becky,
I don't recall ever taking offense to your comments, but God the Holy Spirit is clearly speaking to you. Ever since becoming Catholic, I find that God has been ever so gently and slowly letting me become more aware of my faults, with much more consistency than ever occurred before joining the Church. And probably even more slowly, I'm trying not to justify these faults, but rather trying to find more godly ways to think, speak, and act - and write!
Thanks be to God as He brings us closer to His divine nature, lovingly and gently.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 08:45 pm |
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Thanks so much, Jill, for your encouragement.
A hunger for the Eucharist and a longing for holiness drew me to the Church. Once in the Church, we learn that God is indeed deadly serious about our moving toward holiness.
I love our small morning Mass with the priests and seminarians. Everyone kneels silently after receiving the Lord. We're praying for each other. Many times the Spirit of God is so powerful one can hardly bear it. It is not uncommon for someone to be softly weeping during that time of silent prayer and thanksgiving. Through daily Mass and frequent confession and prayer for each other, we are increasingly able to abide in Christ.
I rejoice to hear of God's work in your life.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 01:20 am |
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Be at peace and go with God!
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 01:20 pm |
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Intercessor wrote: [size=
I want to apologize for the pride, insensitivity, and lack of gentleness in some of my posts, particularly earlier ones. My mother would say it's always been easy for me to tell others what to do but not so easy for me to see my own faults.
In obedience to Christ,
Becky
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{{Becky}} I don't know what you have said or done here to upset people -- or even if you have  But I have only read encouraging words and gentle guidance from your posts.
We are all changing and growing in Christ. It's always easier to look back and see what we could have done better. What matters now is you have acknowledged that and are committed to doing it different from here on out.
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 06:57 pm |
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Ali wrote: {{Becky}} I don't know what you have said or done here to upset people -- or even if you have But I have only read encouraging words and gentle guidance from your posts. We are all changing and growing in Christ. It's always easier to look back and see what we could have done better. What matters now is you have acknowledged that and are committed to doing it different from here on out. Ali
Thanks, Ali. You are very kind.
No, nobody has complained to me about being upset. 
I've been in a rather intense period of self-examination and checking for attachments. With that comes increasing self-knowledge, of course. During adoration I felt moved to apologize on the forum for some of my earliest posts. The information and counsel I gave was satisfactory (and helpful, I hope). However, I see now that although I was typing lists of things a given inquirer should do or avoid, there was not enough charity or mercy behind the counsel. I don't think Jesus was pleased about that.
Years as an administrator trained me to assess quickly, make a decision, state the requirements, deliver the advice, carry out the punishment, if any, and then move on to the next crisis waiting outside my office door. A few of my posts, in the early months, show that pattern but fail to communicate the humility, gentleness, charity, and mercy that would have pleased our Lord.
As you say, we are works in progress, and I am trying to do better.
Grace and peace,
Becky
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 07:46 pm |
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Becky,
All I can think of is
"HUH???"
I always enjoy your posts. What in the world are you talking about? Relax and don't be silly.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 04:46 am |
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 Intercessor wrote: Ali wrote: {{Becky}} I don't know what you have said or done here to upset people -- or even if you have But I have only read encouraging words and gentle guidance from your posts. We are all changing and growing in Christ. It's always easier to look back and see what we could have done better. What matters now is you have acknowledged that and are committed to doing it different from here on out. Ali
[size=Thanks, Ali. You are very kind.
No, nobody has complained to me about being upset.
I've been in a rather intense period of self-examination and checking for attachments. With that comes increasing self-knowledge, of course. During adoration I felt moved to apologize on the forum for some of my earliest posts. The information and counsel I gave was satisfactory (and helpful, I hope). However, I see now that although I was typing lists of things a given inquirer should do or avoid, there was not enough charity or mercy behind the counsel. I don't think Jesus was pleased about that.
Years as an administrator trained me to assess quickly, make a decision, state the requirements, deliver the advice, carry out the punishment, if any, and then move on to the next crisis waiting outside my office door. A few of my posts, in the early months, show that pattern but fail to communicate the humility, gentleness, charity, and mercy that would have pleased our Lord.
As you say, we are works in progress, and I am trying to do better.
Grace and peace,
Becky
] That is what I thought you were concerned about whe I first read your post. Hey, when God gives a gift it keeps on giving. It is just learning to use in new adventurous ways. I have never been an administrator - not certain I ever even handled the administration work of being a homemaker very well  either - but I get impatient with where people are at sometimes. It is like looking from the outside and and saying now why can't they see that. All it takes is a good 
God bless you sister and keep on giving. You never know there is someone out there who needs that firmness. God ministers to all of us and through all of us in different ways at different times.
Be at peace 
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 05:52 pm |
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Becky,
All I can think of is "HUH???" I always enjoy your posts.
What in the world are you talking about? Relax and don't be silly.
Tina, when I wrote, " . . . there was not enough charity or mercy behind the counsel," I guess the short answer is that I was talking about this verse of scripture:
1 Corinthians 13:1
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
God bless,
Becky
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 06:13 pm |
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Hey, when God gives a gift it keeps on giving. . . .
God bless you sister and keep on giving. You never know-- there is someone out there who needs that firmness. God ministers to all of us and through all of us in different ways at different times.
Rose, you have a gift for encouragement and I basically agree with what you say.
I was just sharing the Holy Spirit's reminding me that elegant, witty, or informative responses are not very helpful or worthy if the writer fails to "communicate the humility, gentleness, charity, and mercy that would have pleased our Lord."
I have to be reminded of that more often than most folks do.
Grace and peace,
Becky
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 06:14 pm |
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Becky, that goes for all of us.
I have not detected any lack of charity in your posts. so... HUH???
You are barkin' up the wrong tree in this instance, I think.
woof
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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Oh Becky,
I want to apologize, that rolly face above my post on your quote, I didn't know it was there. I tried to get it to post elsewhere, that must have been where it went. Sorry.
You know what, once a school princpal - notice that it ends with PAL - always a principal of administrater. My daughters best friend got married a month ago, and at the rehersel dinner she was trying to get everyone's attention. Guess what the school principal came out all over her. It was ok though. It was funny - it is just part of her nature and her very being.
We have two principals in our Church - guess what - it is written all over them. They are just awesome women of God, just like you are. It is part of who you are, just like it is for them. Honestly, I am sure it is something that has to be learned in moderation. It doesn't mean we don't grow - it just means it comes out when things need to be corrected.
To me, that PAL on the end always let me know, that administrators were really some of my best friends.
God bless you!
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 10:16 pm |
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Oh Becky,
I want to apologize, that rolly face above my post on your quote, I didn't know it was there. I tried to get it to post elsewhere, that must have been where it went. Sorry.
Funny! I wondered about that, but decided you were just trying to establish a light tone. 
You know what, once a school princpal - notice that it ends with PAL - always a principal of administrater. My daughters best friend got married a month ago, and at the rehearsal dinner she was trying to get everyone's attention. Guess what the school principal came out all over her. It was ok though. It was funny - it is just part of her nature and her very being.
Oh, no! Poor girl. Probably she was unfortunate enough to have someone videotaping the whole thing, too.
It doesn't mean we don't grow - it just means it comes out when things need to be corrected.
There is truth in what you say. However, as a woman I had plenty of opportunities to practice being a good follower as well. My father was a strong leader, and my husband was definitely the head of the home. My career involved reporting to many levels of superiors. Finally, there is the Catholic Church. Boy! Talk about opportunities to practice being obedient!
I'll tell you a little secret, Rose. At this stage of my life, I'd much rather obey than correct. And I've learned that if I stay quiet a few moments, there is usually someone else nearby who is willing and able to correct, so that I don't have to "go there." Blessed, blessed relief.
Grace and peace,
Becky
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 03:22 am |
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I'll tell you a little secret, Rose. At this stage of my life, I'd much rather obey than correct. And I've learned that if I stay quiet a few moments, there is usually someone else nearby who is willing and able to correct, so that I don't have to "go there." Blessed, blessed relief.
Grace and peace,
Becky
Amen Becky, Amen!
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 12:15 am |
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Becky,
As Senor and the first lurker to sign up on this forum. As well, President of the local CHN forum Lurkers Union #0001. And as it's (United Brotherhood of CHN Forum Lurkers, local# 0001) spokesman, I must say……I don't know what the heck you are talking about here. But I will pray that you do grow (even more then you have now) in virtue, charity and mercy.
God Bless you!
I praise God he has allowed you to be an example to all us here.
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 12:36 am |
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Becky,
As Senor and the first lurker to sign up on this forum. As well, President of the local CHN forum Lurkers Union #0001. And as it's (United Brotherhood of CHN Forum Lurkers, local# 0001) spokesman, I must say……I don't know what the heck you are talking about here. But I will pray that you do grow (even more then you have now) in virtue, charity and mercy.
God Bless you!
I praise God he has allowed you to be an example to all us here.
My goodness, what a different and interesting post, Stephen.
Maybe I should never have started this thread. Maybe I was reverting to a Baptist practice of "going forward to make a public rededication during the invitation hymn."
I appreciate your kind words. As you know, the Holy Spirit sees what others do not see and even what we cannot see in ourselves without His help. Little by little, as we draw closer to God, He shows us more and more of what must yet be put to death if we are to be brought into full union with Him. I have been blessed with good spiritual direction and with a fine confessor.
You will just need to trust me (my spiritual director and my confessor would confirm it) when I say that I need to grow in charity and mercy.
I do thank you for your prayers, Stephen.
God bless,
Becky
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| Becky, it's difficult for all of us to write posts in a timely manner and from the heart, and not occasionally sound harsh or uncharitable. I think Rick and David have spoken about it as the nature of internet comunication. What we mean to say doesn't look exactly the same as what comes out of the keyboard. Trust me here, we all know you are a kind, generous and thoughtful lady, who would not knowingly be rude to any of us! Would someone with authority absolve this penitent please?!
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Becky, it's difficult for all of us to write posts in a timely manner and from the heart, and not occasionally sound harsh or uncharitable. I think Rick and David have spoken about it as the nature of internet comunication. What we mean to say doesn't look exactly the same as what comes out of the keyboard. Trust me here, we all know you are a kind, generous and thoughtful lady, who would not knowingly be rude to any of us!
Hi, Marsha,
Thanks for the sweet words of encouragement. No need to fret, all is well-- perhaps too much St. John of the Cross lately and not enough Joel Osteen.  --Just kidding, folks.
God bless,
Becky
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Becky, I think I can understand where you are coming from with your apology, and be assured of my prayers. I can also understand where others are coming from when they say "Huh?"
I certainly have never taken offence at anything that I recall you to have written, but I'm reading all of your posts with my "Catholic glasses" on.
There are those who, having grown up in the Protestant world might come to this site for the first time, and take offence that it even exists, others might have their curiosity piqued and read a little, almost expecting to be offended at what 'those ignorant Catholics' have to say. It is for these people in particular that we need to be mindful of what we say, and how we say it. (type?)
One sentence poorly phrased, even if doctrinally correct, has the potential to give offence, causing the reader to lose the address of this website, and any interest in investigating Catholicism altogether. This is a grave responsibility. Of course we should not let this deter us from posting, for even our poorly phrased offerings have the potential to help many more, but we should be mindful of this.
The other point your request reminds me of that some may be missing, is that our journey to Christ does not stop 'til we are fully joined to Him in heaven. It doesn't stop if we accept an altar call, it doesn't stop if we accept Him as our personal Lord and Saviour, it doesn't stop if we accept baptism, or Eucharist, or Confirmation or the Last Rites. As we journey closer and closer to Christ, we continually strive to more and more conform ourselves to the example He provided for us.
Often on this journey as we succeed in conquering certain sins / temptations, we find that it is only then that we perceive other sins, that may have been there all along but we were blind to. The phrase "removing a plank from your own eye" comes to mind. As does the phrase I heard recently "It hadn't occurred to me before that gossiping might be a sin".
I know that this process has certainly be true for my journey (and continues to be) and I suspect it to be universal. Indeed many of the saints indicate in their writings some of the imperfections that they struggle with daily, and for me I think "if only I were holy enough that that be the worst of my sins" A modern day example would be John Paul the Great. Many consider him to be a saint, and indeed his cause for canonization is progressing, but he still went to confession every week.
So again be assured of my prayers, and of my thanks for all you do here
Regards Doc
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Becky, I think I can understand where you are coming from with your apology, and be assured of my prayers. I can also understand where others are coming from when they say "Huh?"
I certainly have never taken offence at anything that I recall you to have written, but I'm reading all of your posts with my "Catholic glasses" on.
There are those who, having grown up in the Protestant world might come to this site for the first time, and take offence that it even exists, others might have their curiosity piqued and read a little, almost expecting to be offended at what 'those ignorant Catholics' have to say. It is for these people in particular that we need to be mindful of what we say, and how we say it. (type?)
One sentence poorly phrased, even if doctrinally correct, has the potential to give offence, causing the reader to lose the address of this website, and any interest in investigating Catholicism altogether. This is a grave responsibility. Of course we should not let this deter us from posting, for even our poorly phrased offerings have the potential to help many more, but we should be mindful of this.
The other point your request reminds me of that some may be missing, is that our journey to Christ does not stop 'til we are fully joined to Him in heaven. It doesn't stop if we accept an altar call, it doesn't stop if we accept Him as our personal Lord and Saviour, it doesn't stop if we accept baptism, or Eucharist, or Confirmation or the Last Rites. As we journey closer and closer to Christ, we continually strive to more and more conform ourselves to the example He provided for us.
Often on this journey as we succeed in conquering certain sins / temptations, we find that it is only then that we perceive other sins, that may have been there all along but we were blind to. The phrase "removing a plank from your own eye" comes to mind. As does the phrase I heard recently "It hadn't occurred to me before that gossiping might be a sin".
I know that this process has certainly be true for my journey (and continues to be) and I suspect it to be universal. Indeed many of the saints indicate in their writings some of the imperfections that they struggle with daily, and for me I think "if only I were holy enough that that be the worst of my sins" A modern day example would be John Paul the Great. Many consider him to be a saint, and indeed his cause for canonization is progressing, but he still went to confession every week.
So again be assured of my prayers, and of my thanks for all you do here
Regards Doc
Thanks for this post, Doc. It is good to be understood.
I will be very grateful for your prayers.
Bless you,
Becky
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Becky, I hope my being quiet on the forum isn't an indicator to you that you did anything wrong in my direction. I admire your spunk and spirit. You are a good poker and prodder.  But I love you anyway. heh I'm still heading in the Catholic Church direction (as Peter said, where else can I go?), but I'm doing things very, very slowly in a contemplative way as it seems most people heading toward the Catholic Church tend to do.
It's good to be reflecting on our past actions, though. Pondering is healthy for the soul if done in moderation. 
Love to ya!
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Kim M. wrote:
Becky, I hope my being quiet on the forum isn't an indicator to you that you did anything wrong in my direction. I admire your spunk and spirit. You are a good poker and prodder. But I love you anyway. heh I'm still heading in the Catholic Church direction (as Peter said, where else can I go?), but I'm doing things very, very slowly in a contemplative way as it seems most people heading toward the Catholic Church tend to do.
It's good to be reflecting on our past actions, though. Pondering is healthy for the soul if done in moderation.
Love to ya!
Hey, there, ladybug!  Although we've said howdy in PMs, I have definitely missed you on the forum. We've needed a lighter touch of late, it seems. You were the spunky, spirited one, not I.
In any case, you've been off contemplating. I've been off pondering. We go through seasons in our spiritual journeys, don't we? I felt I lost my focus a bit there for a little while. Perhaps in my effort to regain it, I went too far into introspection. One doesn't "hit it" exactly right all the time.
Maybe a change in reading material would be good for a few days.
Wish you'd come back to us on a regular basis and share some of what you've been contemplating. There I go again--poking and prodding.
In His love,
Becky
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"He who will persevere unto the end is not he who will never fall, but he who after every fall will humble himself and rise again, relying on the infinite strength of God." Divine Intimacy, p. 885 Father Gabriel, O.C.D.
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Kim M.
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| Location: | Georgia USA |
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| First Name: | Kim | | Gender: | Female | | Faith History: | Baptist, Assembly of God, Church of God, Assembly again, PCA, ... |
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Posted: Thu Jun 26th, 2008 08:43 pm |
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