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BishopFoss
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:47 pm |
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Hey,
I have heard rumors that the man who wrote all of those "Chick" tracks has come into full communion with the Church. Is this true? If so, I wonder, will he apologize for the tracts he wrote against the Catholic Church.
God Bless to all...
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 09:23 pm |
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 Don't know, we'll have to send him to Dave Armstrong. He'll know for sure! And then he'll make sure Chick confesses to just the right priest.
(No, I'm not talking about a Grand Inquisitor, but read on.)
If Jack Chick actually converted, what a great victory, because we can eventually count on some dissembling witness/testimony of whatever prompted him to carry on his long mission of hatred against the Church will also give us a window into where we can reach others who are (underneath all their bluster, hype, acting skills, you name it, want to come home--but pride, or whatever, just yanks them back like that proverbial vaudeville stage hook.)
Although converts are more aware of this step than I am, he has to make a long confession. The priest who hears it will know right off the bat if he's "legit" and not playing him and the Church along for a ride. Then, the burden will fall back on Chick or any convert, esp. a controversial one like Chick, if he steps back into Catholic baiting. In that case ... I don't even want to go there!
However, it wouldn't hurt to pray for him, hard as it is to even think of it if he's still up to his old bad tricks, habits and spreading hatred. Remember what the fellow who wrote I Cor. 1-13 did before he became a Christian. And Chick didn't approve of or stand by to watch a theocratically sanctioned murder.
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BodRod
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 02:49 am |
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Steven Barrett wrote:
Although converts are more aware of this step than I am, he has to make a long confession.
I don't think that is an absolute. It would depend the type of baptisim he may have had in the past. It is my understanding that if his baptisim is not the type that is acceptable to the Church, (using water and the names of the Trinity) all he has to do is be baptized according to the requirements of the Church and he can start a fresh life.
BTW, if anyone finds themself in this position, they may feel they and carrying a HUGE burden of guilt and I hope they have an understanding priest. It was a HUGE burden for me when I realized that I had been wrong all along and I had taught others, including my own kids, the same wrong information. One day I was brooding over the mistakes in my past teachings and the thought came to me, (out of the blue, as they say) that I had done what I thought was right at the time but now I knew better and was doing better. From that point on I had the feeling that I had been understood and forgiven. It was a great feeling of relief. 
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Steven Barrett
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 08:06 am |
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Is it ever! My God when I think of the terrible things I said and did when I was younger, driven by pride and stupidity, I still get the shudders. Sure, we're supposed to be able to walk out of the confessional knowing God took care of them all, but we're still human and I'm not at all sure if having that vestige of guilt lasting beyond the amount of prayers, or whatever penance father gives us, is a bad thing. We need that pricking to keep us from falling back.
But we also need to know when and how to pull ourselves back together and not be consumed by all that guilt and shame. That's been a lifetime burden for myself, and I'm talking about some awful memories I've been carrying since my freshman year in college. And I don't like admitting my shortcomings publicly, but if in doing so will help others by reading this, and maybe by a zillion to one chance in another million, that the person I feel most guilty about in reference to my freshman year, should read this and gain solace, relief and peace of mind--and not the kind that comes from a gotcha and "You deserve it buddy"  feeling)-- I don't mind sharing it.
It's easy to poke fun at Chick's foibles for their outlandishness and craziness. But if the man's sincerely coming to his theological senses and most importantly soulful senses (pardon my hackneyed way of putting it, it's late now on the right coast)--he should be given a wide berth and a lot of patient loving counsel, a lot of time to confess and much prayerful support. I even know a lot of Protestants would be pleased to see him make this move, not just because his tracts and comic books embarrass them, but if they really care for the man just a fellow sinner, they'll realize in many respects (and we Catholics should remember this of ourselves, too) he's no different than many other people who are just a lot more "discrete" in their prejudicial treatment of others. (Oh, could I tellyou some hair raising and blood-pressure raising stories about how academics on a local school committee treat those of lesser academic ranks (and seemingly lesser intellectual talents.  And too damn many of them consider themselves "progressive.")
Jack Chick's the least of our worries; hell, we've got a lot of house cleaning of our own to do, and so do a lot of other folks who like to fashion themselves as the more "pragmatic" folks.
Who was more dangerous to our values before he came in: Bernard Nathanson or a possible entry of Jack Chick? Close call when we consider the damage his "death cookie" nonsense caused to souls. On the other hand; we could always turn away from the comic books; Those innocent kids didn't have a chance. And look at who's going to Mass? America's former foremost baby killer.
As I never tire of telling people, there's always room for hope! I'd better get off this thing because if my wife comes downstairs and sees me still on it, my hopes for a long(er) life might have to be reconsidered!   
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BodRod
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 10:57 am |
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Steven Barrett wrote: Is it ever! My God when I think of the terrible things I said and did when I was younger, driven by pride and stupidity, I still get the shudders.
If they had had the technology then like they have now, I feel sure that I would have wound up in Juvinle Hall!!! 
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 11:35 pm |
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Hi Rev. Terry,
Do you have any information on this? Many anti-Catholics have converted by God's grace, but if Chick or one of his cohorts did, that would truly be a miracle of God's grace.
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 09:40 pm |
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SAUL PERSECUTED THE CHURCH!
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 04:46 pm |
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Okay now I'm picturing an RCIA class right? And the priest who's teaching that day stands up in front of the class and is like today we'll be talking about the Blessed Virgin and the Saints and what Catholics believe.
And everyone in the entire class turns to look at Jack, who is sort of twitching like.
Man that was the only class I missed too, because I was out of town, sigh.
I think it's kinda like me and my sister sometimes joke about joining the ACLU as -spies- and we're like it would never work out. We'd give ourselves away in 10 minutes cuz it wouldn't be long before you'd have to say something that everyone would be like ... wait a minute, you're not really one of us.
Somehow I think you'd be able to tell..
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Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 03:17 am |
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I came across an interesting letter someone wrote a priest, about the use of chick tracks and this person's conversion to the Catholic Church.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2964/JackChick.html
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BishopFoss
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 06:26 pm |
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Hey,
I read it online somewhere; but I can't remember where. Sorry. I should have copied the source or webpage that I came across this info on.
Blessings and Peace...
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Rev. Terry Foss
Pater noster qui es in caelis
sanctificetur nomen tuum.
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua
sicut in caelo et terra.
Panem nostrum cotidianum
da nobis hodie.
Et dimitte nobis debita nostra
sicut et nos dimittimus
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