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I would appreciate prayers for my five year old grandson who has been having headaches and vomiting.  They are getting more frequent.  The pediatrician has suggested it may be migraines but they have scheduled an MRI for Wed. the 26th at 7:00 p.m.  Please pray for a good outcome.  DH and I are leaving in the a.m. for North Carolina to spend a couple of days with them.  Thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone.


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Marsha, I will pray for him.

If it is migraines--

Over a twenty year period I found relieve in two ways.

1. discovering my food allergies and avoiding the problem foods for six months until my system became less sensitive to the food allergens.

2. a combination of a beta blocker (Inderol) and a calcium channel blocker (Pro-Cardia)

Keep us posted, Marsha, after the MRI.

Becky

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Dear Lord, please bless this precious child and bring about a healing, by either supernatural or natural means. Give the doctors wisdom in finding the cause and eliminating it and its symptoms. Amen.



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Just a reminder that Marsha's little grandson is scheduled for an MRI tonight (Wed.) at seven. Let's pray that he will not be frightened by this procedure.



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Thank you all for your prayers and kind words.  Will was afraid but the technician talked him through it and his Daddy stood by the table and held one ankle to let him know he was there.  We don't know the results yet, but should in a few days.  I will let you know.  We have had a crazy busy holiday and I haven't had a chance until now to even look at the forum.  I have a lot of catching up to do!


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Marsha, I've been concerned.

Thanks for the update.  Poor little guy.  It's so hard to subject them to frightening procedures.

 

Keep us posted.

Hope you can get some rest now.

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Though this is not a prayer, but a suggesttion, Coke Icees.   They treat my migraines and pain wonderfully.  :D


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Thanks Rose, Will would love that idea!  He's not allowed soft drinks except non-caffeinated every now and then, but I will suggest that to my daughter to see if it would help.  At least having a special treat would add a little something positive to the ordeal.

Becky, thanks for the tip about the food allergies.  I didn't know they could go away but we can sure try keeping a list of what he eats.  The doctor gave him a prescription for nausea and vomiting, and something for pain.  The newer meds for migraine haven't been released for use by children yet.


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Thank you all for praying for my grandson.  The MRI was negative, so we are back to the migraine theory, which is much better than a head injury, etc.  Praise God for a good report from the doctor!! :D


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Becky, thanks for the tip about the food allergies. I didn't know they could go away but we can sure try keeping a list of what he eats. The doctor gave him a prescription for nausea and vomiting, and something for pain. The newer meds for migraine haven't been released for use by children yet.

Marsha, since you got a diagnosis of migraine, I'll share some things I learned from several different doctors over a couple of decades. Maybe Will's folks can use some of it.

Ophthalmologists have told me a migraine can be triggered by sunlight reflected off the windshield or bumper of an oncoming car or by camera flashes. Bright, flashing lights are troublesome for migraine patients.

Sleep habits are important.
I was told to go to bed and get up at the same times every day, even on weekends and to avoid sleeping more hours than normal. Sleep deprivation is also a common provoker of migraine attack – so not too much sleep and not too little sleep and no irregular hours.

Pharmacies have gelpacks to be frozen and then placed inside an ACE bandage envelope which stretches around the head and fastens with Velcro. Position the gelpack over the eye and temple that are throbbing.

Probably there will be a few foods that are red-alert problems. One bite of raw onion (in the past) would have sent me into a violent migraine attack. You may need to do a bit of research to learn all the unexpected sources of ingesting that food allergen. For example, corn is used in the inside coating of plastic milk cartons and in cream of tartar.

If he's allergic to wheat, corn, rice, etc., you can get soy flour at a health foods store.
I made muffins with it, using honey (instead of sugar) and bananas or cranberries to cut the
soy taste -- lots of protein.

Sometimes migraine patients are experiencing low levels of magnesium click here
I handled that by eating a handful of dried prunes each day. Don't know whether Will would tolerate that or not—there are other sources of magnesium.

Getting plenty of water every day is important for migraine patients.

Morphine injections weren't much help, but Phenergan was and had a triple benefit: controlling nausea, calming the CNS, allowing sleep.

Again, for total prevention I used a combination of Inderol and Procardia—worked like magic,
though it took patience to discover the right dosages.

Maybe it's not too early to teach little Will about Colossians 1:24, if that won't cause a family upset. I certainly wish I had known about offering up suffering during my twenty years of being a migraine patient. Bless his heart, if I could endure some of those headaches for him, I would, Marsha.

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Becky you are so sweet to say that, and I would suffer for him also.  I will pass along to my daughter and her husband what you have suggested, it may be that some of it would help him greatly.  I know the doctor did give them a prescription for Phenergan, and also some kind of pain reliever that is used nasally, since he can't keep anything on his stomach while this is going on.  Thankfully, once he falls asleep for a little while, when he wakes up he's right as rain and ready to roll!  Hopefully he'll grow out of them.  Thanks for your help!  God bless

BTW, re the scripture Colossians 1:24, Will has only a scant knowledge of who Jesus is.  I try to speak of Christ a few times when I'm with them, and say prayer at mealtimes, etc, and bedtime.  His parents don't set aside time to attend church on the weekends, they always have other things planned.  When we were driving to the hospital for the MRI (I went along with Will and his Dad because Mom was in the bed with tonsilitis all Christmas) anyway, I was pointing out stars in the sky out the window, and somehow the subject of how the world was "built" came up.  I asked Will if he knew who made the world, and he said "heaven, heaven built the world."  So we have a long way to go, if they lived closer to me, it would be a different story!

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Dear Marsha,

How is Will doing? Is he getting any better? I have migraines too and had several this past week due to not sleeping regular hours. My husband has been traveling a lot because of his work, but I am very hopeful that this is going to be concluded by Easter.

The coke icees really help me. Also, for prevention, it is important to drink plenty of water, avoid MSG and get plenty of protein and complex carbohydrates. The ups and downs of blood sugar can trigger a migraine. But you probably know these things.

I am a 2nd grade teacher, and we are hearing of more young children getting headaches in the past few years. Nobody seems to know why. I hope he's gotten some relief.

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Thanks Lisa, he still has them but they haven't been as frequent lately as they were for awhile.  The last time I know of one, he had been visited by the other grandparents who always try to cram a lot of activities into their visits and I think the excitement triggers the episode.  They had gone bowling, and then to one of those "jumping" places (you know what I mean!) and then they ate hotdogs.  He had gotten overheated at the jumping place of course.  Now he has medication so hopefully that is helping.  I get migraines too, and it's hard sometimes to pinpoint what triggers them.  Lack of sleep is definitely one, and extreme or sudden changes in temperature is another.  Also bright lights, I can't go in a room where a copier is being used!  I have found using one of the "triptan" meds is useful, especially if used as soon as the headache starts.  I use Frova, but many people use Imitrex.  I could do more probably to prevent them, like regulate my sugar intake, and caffeine.  One thing I know, you have to do something, it's not going to be something you can just take a Tylenol for and keep going!  And working with children like you do, they get the nausea faster it seems, and throw up before you even know they're sick!  I'll remember to pray for you and your students, please pray for me and Will!


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As one who suffers from frequent migraine headaches, I can offer no advice, but simply prayers. I'm learning to offer these sufferings up to the Lord, but when you are in the midst of one these attacks, even thinking hurts.
I thank God for my Imitrex. It cuts the edge off most of the attacks. For me, it's usually weather changes and chocolate and or stress. I'll admit, because I love dark chocolate, I push my limits. :D

I'll pray for your grandson. I don't wish migraines on anyone.

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Thanks Rich.  Prayers are needed and appreciated!  God bless


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Dear Credo Catholic:

Bless His heart.  Saying a little prayer for him right now.  Maybe it's just a bad case of the flu.




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You are a wonderful grandma to introduce Will to Jesus.  Try getting some illustrated pictures, like of Jesus and the children...these things stay with you, as I remember from my Presbyterian Sunday school leaflets.  There's a "New Catholic Picture Book" by Rev. Lovasik that's great--the adults in our RCIA class loved it!

I'll pray for Will--I have migraines too, and my daughter got them at about his age.  She hasn't had many since--I pray that will be the case for Will, too.  They're not just bad headaches--people who don't get them don't always understand.

There've been such great medical advances since the 80s, when all that was there was narcotics, and doctors treated you like a drug addict and said the headache was because I have a "typical migraine personality.":X It was the whole "Just Say No" era.  Tough to be a pain sufferer back then.  Now the doctors regulate the drugs, but most understand.  And triptans are a miracle!  When I get a sudden attack, a fiorinal with codeine plus Zomig knocks it out (after about 30 minutes of bad pain).  I probably could use something stronger, but I'm still feeling stung by how I was treated in the past about the codeine.  It can cause habituation and daily headaches, that's for sure--so can caffeine.  Caffeine works, though--it's actually an ingredient in fiorinal, which is why the Coke icees probably help.  I say do whatever works, and follow the doctor's instructions, of course, especially in a child's case. (I'm no doctor, though!)

I take Inderal too...the calcium channel blocker didn't seem to work, though.  My doctor says every case is an individual one. (I forget the term he used, it was like experiential, I think....trial and error, and the doctor needs to listen to the patient.  How things have changed!)

God bless you, Will and his mom and dad...offering up suffering is something I'd never heard of before becoming Catholic...I'll pray for Will and offer up mine.

 


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Marsha

It's so good to see you dear.

I added your little Guy to my prayer book so I can pray for him daily.

Migraines are really getting more common in juviniles in the past few years, not sure why, but I hope they find some safe & reasonable treatments for the youngsters.

The others have already told you about foods/allergies/ etc.  so I'll not go through that again on you.

If you want any good information & recent research on migrains? I'm a member of a very reliable pain comunity that I can send you a link so you can look into the newest treatments available.  Just let me know hon.

It's so nice to get to say Hi

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Thanks Betty.  It's good to hear from you too.  I hope your fibromyalgia is not causing too much trouble.

We have been told that young children cannot take the new meds that are made for migraine.  So my daughter has to deal with the symptoms, they have a pain med they can give, I think under the tongue (not sure) and a suppository for vomiting.  I don't know if they are discovering food allergies but that sounds like a good place to start!  I just hope and pray the headaches get less frequent. 

Thanks for your prayers, they mean a lot!  God bless


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I know they don't like to give the little kids the new drugs but one drug that has been around a long time and helped my sister and me in the past (and is OTC) is Benadryl. It might be just b/c it makes one so sleepy, and sleep is a good migraine cure. But if I can't get Imitrex I will take that with Motrin and a caffeine drink (regular Coke or coffee).

Also I try to put a hot compress on the forehead (I've heard cold recommended but my mom always used hot.)

That's quite a cocktail for a little kid but probably safer than the prescriptions we adults take.

I hope he keeps improving. You are quite right about schedules/routines being changed as a major trigger. I almost always get one when we have a half day at school with a party. I don't know if it's the extra preparations, the junk food/sugar, delaying my real lunch, or the excited kids! Maybe all of the above!

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Lord of the Powers be with this little one and his parents, for in times of distress we have no other help but You.
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Lisa, you are right about sleep helping cure a migraine, and I have taken Benedryl before also.  It just means you have to go to bed, no lights or noise.  I'm glad to hear someone else has done that.

Rose, I will let my daughter know of your prayers.  Thank you!


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Phenergan was my helper.
It calms the central nervous system, fights nausea, creates drowsiness.
I would be sure they did not give him a pediatric mix of Phenergan and codeine, though. Codeine can create nausea itself.



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You're right.  I have taken codeine for migraine and the doctor gave me phenergan to take with it, just so I wouldn't have nausea.  But I told him, I have nausea anyway, from the migraine!  But now the Frova I take is like a miracle drug with migraine.  It really works, for me. 

About the "hot" versus "cold" washcloth on your head, I have used the cold but not the hot, I may try that.  When I get a bad headache, that side of my face gets really cold anyway.  And I have the little zigzag lights in front of my eyes.  It really is a suffering that should be offered up.  I heard Mother Angelica say to join it with Jesus' crown of thorns.  I'm not that saintly, I want it to go away.


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